What is the furthest you can throw something?

[DaveC426913]

No there is a clear and obvious difference between a rocket and a gun,

Yes, just as there is a clear difference between throwing an object manually and firing it with technology, yet you include them in the same question as if they're the same.

How are we to judge where you decide to draw the line between what qualifies and what does not?

 

[Ryan_m_b]

Yes, just as there is a clear difference between throwing an object manually and firing it with technology, yet you include them in the same question as if they're the same.

How are we to judge where you decide to draw the line between what qualifies and what does not?

Not to mention the clear differences between objects and the condition where you throw them! (Baseball off of a building or boomerang in a forest?)

 

[trini]

i once saw a kid throw a temper tantrum that didn't stop for like 2 hours. must be a record

 

[AtomicJoe]

In that case I can throw a weather balloon thousands of km around the Earth. Or I could build a Lofstrom loop and throw a car into orbit. Or I could throw my mate 8km off of Mt Everest.

This really does seem a bizarre topic to be asking about. Without specific qualifiers to an outrageously ambiguous question this doesn't belong in this forum.

Not really you are using the weight of the atmosphere to power it so it is not a throw as such.



When you know the answer the question is not ambiguous.

 

[AtomicJoe]

In that case I can throw a weather balloon thousands of km around the Earth. Or I could build a Lofstrom loop and throw a car into orbit. Or I could throw my mate 8km off of Mt Everest.

This really does seem a bizarre topic to be asking about. Without specific qualifiers to an outrageously ambiguous question this doesn't belong in this forum.

It's only a bizarre topic if you choose to be awkward about it.

 

[AtomicJoe]

Yes, just as there is a clear difference between throwing an object manually and firing it with technology, yet you include them in the same question as if they're the same.

How are we to judge where you decide to draw the line between what qualifies and what does not?

No there is no real difference between throwing and firing it, a throw implies that the kinetic energy of the projectile is the only source of energy, so there is no difference between manually and using technology in reality, they are both throws.
If you choose to pick only manual throws then that is a poor effort on your part.

 

[JaredJames]

AtomicJoe, instead of answering all these individual posts trying to explain why they do / do not apply to your idea in your head, tell us the idea you have!

Give us a clear and precise question. It will save time and thread space. All you're doing now is boosting post counts.

Otherwise, this thread remains complete non-sense and I can't see it remaining open much longer.

 

[mishrashubham]

Haha another pointless thread. I am not getting into this again. Check this to see what I am referring to.
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=490674

 

[Ryan_m_b]

Not really you are using the weight of the atmosphere to power it so it is not a throw as such.

When you know the answer the question is not ambiguous.

If I throw a paper airplane the atmosphere is helping "power" it.

You are clearly a troll who is just wasting the time of everybody involved, this thread should be locked.

 

[mishrashubham]

If I throw a paper airplane the atmosphere is helping "power" it.

You are clearly a troll who is just wasting the time of everybody involved, this thread should be locked.

Seriously. I am really sick of such people.

 

[DaveC426913]

No there is no real difference between throwing and firing it, a throw implies that the kinetic energy of the projectile is the only source of energy, so there is no difference between manually and using technology in reality, they are both throws.
If you choose to pick only manual throws then that is a poor effort on your part.

These are distinctions you are making as you go. We have been asking for clarification but you won't provide it. when people give valid answers, you rule them out based on criteria that you reveal as it pleases you.

 

[DaveC426913]

If I throw a paper airplane the atmosphere is helping "power" it.

You are clearly a troll who is just wasting the time of everybody involved, this thread should be locked.

Troll is a bit harsh, IMO.

If he asks a question and we don't want to play, we don't have to play.

However, this is not a well-formed physics question, and the OP is clearly revealing criteria as it suits him to get to the answer he wants.

It's really a riddle.

It does not belong in the physics forum. I am going to have this moved to GD.

 

[JaredJames]

Look at his other thread on shortest distance.

Nothing better than a troll for sure.

 

[AtomicJoe]

It is a serious question and a good one.

It is also a tough question, which is why nobody can give a definitive answer.

I have qualified the question a number of times for those who cannot see it for what it is.

 

[JaredJames]

It is a serious question and a good one.

It is also a tough question, which is why nobody can give a definitive answer.

I have qualified the question a number of times for those who cannot see it for what it is.

We can't answer you because you keep changing the criteria.

We can't answer because you haven't defined exactly what you want an answer for.

It is one of the worst questions put out there.

 

[AtomicJoe]

If I throw a paper airplane the atmosphere is helping "power" it.

You are clearly a troll who is just wasting the time of everybody involved, this thread should be locked.

Yes it is under certain circumstances, it is getting lift from rising air (usually hot air).
I am talking about something powered solely by it's own momentum after release.

 

[DaveC426913]

I am talking about something powered solely by it's own momentum after release.

Thank you. You do have your own idea of the one correct answer.

This is a riddle.

You could have told us that up front so we could have taken it in the light is was intended.

Though I might not have used the term 'troll', you do seem to be delighting in the feeling of pulling everyone's strings.

 

[Ryan_m_b]

Troll is a bit harsh, IMO.

If he asks a question and we don't want to play, we don't have to play.

However, this is not a well-formed physics question, and the OP is clearly revealing criteria as it suits him to get to the answer he wants.

It's really a riddle.

It does not belong in the physics forum. I am going to have this moved to GD.

Perhaps Troll was harsh I admit. I also see this is a waste of time, it's not a riddle nor is it a serious question. It should be moved out of the general physics section for sure, good call.

It is a serious question and a good one.

It is also a tough question, which is why nobody can give a definitive answer.

I have qualified the question a number of times for those who cannot see it for what it is.

Perhaps you should clarify one last time then because you've failed to explain what you hope to achieve. Are you looking for a specific answer? Are you looking for the theoretical maximum? What are you parameters? If you are including guns then the furthest I can throw anything is infinity.

Yes it is under certain circumstances, it is getting lift from rising air (usually hot air).
I am talking about something powered solely by it's own momentum after release.

It is not necessarily generating lift from air however its aerodynamic shape allows it to travel further in atmosphere compared to an identical piece of paper that is scrunched into a ball.

 

[Vanadium 50]

Enough time has been wasted here. Time to move along.