What is the furthest you can throw something?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the question of how far one can throw an object, exploring various interpretations of the question, the physics involved, and the types of objects considered. Participants engage in a mix of theoretical and practical considerations, including escape velocity, orbital mechanics, and personal throwing experiences.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that throwing an object at escape velocity would allow it to continue indefinitely, while others question the feasibility of achieving such a throw.
  • There is a distinction made between throwing an object into orbit and simply throwing it away from Earth, with some arguing that a second burn is necessary to achieve orbit.
  • Personal anecdotes about throwing distances are shared, with claims ranging from 15 feet to 60-70 meters.
  • Participants express differing views on the clarity of the original question, with some finding it ambiguous and others asserting it is straightforward.
  • Records for various types of throws are mentioned, including those for football, baseball, and flying rings, with discussions on whether these counts as human throws.
  • Some participants raise concerns about the limitations of throwing methods, such as the presence of obstacles or the nature of the projectile.
  • The concept of using a rail gun to launch projectiles is introduced, with a mention of distances potentially reaching 11 kilometers.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the clarity of the question or the feasibility of throwing objects into orbit. Multiple competing views remain regarding the interpretation of the question and the physics involved in throwing distances.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the ambiguity of the original question, the dependence on definitions of "throwing," and the unresolved nature of certain claims regarding orbital mechanics and projectile distances.

  • #61
AtomicJoe said:
No there is no real difference between throwing and firing it, a throw implies that the kinetic energy of the projectile is the only source of energy, so there is no difference between manually and using technology in reality, they are both throws.
If you choose to pick only manual throws then that is a poor effort on your part.

These are distinctions you are making as you go. We have been asking for clarification but you won't provide it. when people give valid answers, you rule them out based on criteria that you reveal as it pleases you.
 
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  • #62
ryan_m_b said:
If I throw a paper airplane the atmosphere is helping "power" it.

You are clearly a troll who is just wasting the time of everybody involved, this thread should be locked.

Troll is a bit harsh, IMO.

If he asks a question and we don't want to play, we don't have to play.

However, this is not a well-formed physics question, and the OP is clearly revealing criteria as it suits him to get to the answer he wants.

It's really a riddle.

It does not belong in the physics forum. I am going to have this moved to GD.
 
  • #63
Look at his other thread on shortest distance.

Nothing better than a troll for sure.
 
  • #64
It is a serious question and a good one.

It is also a tough question, which is why nobody can give a definitive answer.

I have qualified the question a number of times for those who cannot see it for what it is.
 
  • #65
AtomicJoe said:
It is a serious question and a good one.

It is also a tough question, which is why nobody can give a definitive answer.

I have qualified the question a number of times for those who cannot see it for what it is.

We can't answer you because you keep changing the criteria.

We can't answer because you haven't defined exactly what you want an answer for.

It is one of the worst questions put out there.
 
  • #66
ryan_m_b said:
If I throw a paper airplane the atmosphere is helping "power" it.

You are clearly a troll who is just wasting the time of everybody involved, this thread should be locked.

Yes it is under certain circumstances, it is getting lift from rising air (usually hot air).
I am talking about something powered solely by it's own momentum after release.
 
  • #67
AtomicJoe said:
I am talking about something powered solely by it's own momentum after release.

Thank you. You do have your own idea of the one correct answer.

This is a riddle.

You could have told us that up front so we could have taken it in the light is was intended.

Though I might not have used the term 'troll', you do seem to be delighting in the feeling of pulling everyone's strings.
 
  • #68
DaveC426913 said:
Troll is a bit harsh, IMO.

If he asks a question and we don't want to play, we don't have to play.

However, this is not a well-formed physics question, and the OP is clearly revealing criteria as it suits him to get to the answer he wants.

It's really a riddle.

It does not belong in the physics forum. I am going to have this moved to GD.

Perhaps Troll was harsh I admit. I also see this is a waste of time, it's not a riddle nor is it a serious question. It should be moved out of the general physics section for sure, good call.

AtomicJoe3283443 said:
It is a serious question and a good one.

It is also a tough question, which is why nobody can give a definitive answer.

I have qualified the question a number of times for those who cannot see it for what it is.

Perhaps you should clarify one last time then because you've failed to explain what you hope to achieve. Are you looking for a specific answer? Are you looking for the theoretical maximum? What are you parameters? If you are including guns then the furthest I can throw anything is infinity.

Yes it is under certain circumstances, it is getting lift from rising air (usually hot air).
I am talking about something powered solely by it's own momentum after release.

It is not necessarily generating lift from air however its aerodynamic shape allows it to travel further in atmosphere compared to an identical piece of paper that is scrunched into a ball.
 
  • #69
Enough time has been wasted here. Time to move along.
 

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