Do you have an example of a truly random phenomenon?

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The forum discussion centers on the concept of "truly random phenomena" outside of quantum physics, with participants debating the nature of randomness and determinism. Key examples include coin tosses and radioactive decay, with the consensus that true randomness is inherently linked to quantum mechanics. The discussion highlights that classical deterministic theories cannot produce true randomness, as they rely on complete knowledge of initial conditions. Participants emphasize that randomness is a mathematical concept, often conflated with unpredictability in practical scenarios.

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  • #121
The_Baron said:
I mean that if we had all of the data we could have on the phenomena, then even theortically it will still be random.
I have real trouble with the format of this discussion board. Nonetheless, on the grandest scale the universe is random, random as the expansion and creation of new synapses and thought paths in the brain with new, especially original thought. At the inception of a seemingly intentional thought, was the thought to carry out, or even conceive of the intent, random? Is photon distribution in the Slit Experiment, random? So in the random but contained expansion of the universe, there is order universally in universal randomness. Yin & Yang, I reckon. Like it's getting to the philosophy of science/physics.

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  • #122
Automaticsteam said:
I have real trouble with the format of this discussion board.
I love the format of this 'discussion board'. It's briliiant.
 
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Automaticsteam said:
Like it's getting to the philosophy of science/physics.
And in a random act of kindness, this long thread is now done. Thanks everybody for your contributions.
 
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