Undergrad Do you have an example of a truly random phenomenon?

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The discussion centers on the challenge of identifying a truly random phenomenon outside of quantum physics. Participants argue that classical deterministic theories cannot yield true randomness, as all outcomes could theoretically be predicted with complete data. The concept of randomness is further complicated by the relationship between chaos and quantum mechanics, where unpredictability may stem from underlying quantum processes. Examples like radioactive decay and Johnson noise are cited as potential sources of randomness, but their classification remains debated. Ultimately, the conversation highlights the complexities of defining and understanding true randomness in both theoretical and practical contexts.
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The_Baron said:
I mean that if we had all of the data we could have on the phenomena, then even theortically it will still be random.
I have real trouble with the format of this discussion board. Nonetheless, on the grandest scale the universe is random, random as the expansion and creation of new synapses and thought paths in the brain with new, especially original thought. At the inception of a seemingly intentional thought, was the thought to carry out, or even conceive of the intent, random? Is photon distribution in the Slit Experiment, random? So in the random but contained expansion of the universe, there is order universally in universal randomness. Yin & Yang, I reckon. Like it's getting to the philosophy of science/physics.

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Automaticsteam said:
I have real trouble with the format of this discussion board.
I love the format of this 'discussion board'. It's briliiant.
 
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Automaticsteam said:
Like it's getting to the philosophy of science/physics.
And in a random act of kindness, this long thread is now done. Thanks everybody for your contributions.
 
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