What is the Initial Velocity and Angle of a Golf Ball Passing Over a 20m Tree?

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The problem involves determining the initial velocity and angle of a golf ball that passes over a 20m high tree located 40m from the tee and lands 100m beyond the tree. This scenario is situated within the context of kinematics, focusing on projectile motion under the influence of gravity.

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  • The original poster attempts to use kinematic equations to relate the horizontal and vertical motion of the golf ball, but expresses uncertainty about how to proceed with the equations they have set up. Some participants suggest that an additional equation is needed, specifically referencing the distance the ball travels beyond the tree.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the implications of the ball landing 100m past the tree as a potential source for an additional equation. There is a collaborative tone as participants provide encouragement and minor corrections regarding language use.

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Participants note the constraints of the problem, including the requirement to find both the initial velocity and angle from the equations derived, and the specific distances involved in the scenario.

devanlevin
a golf ball passes on its course exactly over the top of a tree standing 20m high and 40m away from the tee, the ball eventually lands 100m past the tree. what is the original velocity, speed and direction, of the stroke?

this is a question in kinematics and the only force to take into account is gravity,


using
V(t)=Vo+at
X(t)=Xo+Vot+½at²
V²-Vo²=2aΔx

Vx=const=cosθ*Vo
Vy(t)=sinθ*Vo+at

knowing that the ball passed through (40,20) i use the equation for X,
X(t)=40m=cosθ*Vo*t
t=40/cosθ*Vo

Y(t)=20m=sinθ*Vo*(40/cosθ*Vo)-4.9(40/cosθ*Vo)²
=40*tanθ-4.9(40/cosθ*Vo)²

now from here i don't know what to do, one equation with both values i need to find, θ and Vo, have i overlooked something, done something wrong or used the wrong equations for the case?

hope my english and the terms i used are correct, it is a question i have had to translate, thanks
 
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devanlevin said:
i don't know what to do, one equation with both values i need to find…

Hi devanlevin! :smile:

(btw, the English was fine, except just say "a golf ball passes exactly over the top of a tree …" :smile: )

Yes, you're right … you need one more equation …

you haven't used:
the ball eventually lands 100m past the tree
 
how can i work this into get an answer??
 
devanlevin said:
how can i work this into get an answer??

Just do it!

You'll have two more equations, and only one more unknown (t2). :smile:

(it may … or may not … help to note that the maximum height is after 50 m horizontally)
 

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