Calculation to launch a golf ball

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The discussion revolves around calculating the necessary energy and parameters for a golf ball launcher designed to reach a target within a specified prism volume. The original poster explores using a pendulum mechanism and discusses various physical principles, including projectile motion and energy conservation.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the required launch speed and height for the pendulum based on projectile motion equations and the coefficient of restitution. Some participants question the derivation of specific terms in the equations used, while others suggest re-evaluating the calculated speeds based on inelastic collision principles.

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Participants are actively engaging with the calculations presented, with some providing feedback on the derivations and suggesting alternative values for the required speeds. There is a recognition of differing results, indicating a productive exploration of the problem without reaching a definitive consensus.

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Participants are working under the constraints of the homework assignment, which includes specific parameters for the launcher and the golf ball's properties. There is ongoing discussion about the assumptions made in the calculations, particularly regarding angles and collision effects.

Maricalue
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Hi,

I need your help. Is my calculation correct?


1. Homework Statement

We have to build a launcher that will be able to reach a target that is place anywhere in a prism 3m X 3m X 1m. The launcher have to used a golf ball and gravity as source of energy.

I am trying to calculate what we need as energy. :

-We are thinking about using a pendulum.

-We want it to hit the ball in a tube that we could control to adjust the angle of launching.​

We know :

-that we have to used 45 degrees to maximize our shot.

-that the ball golf as a coefficient of restitution of 0,83 and a mass of 45,9 g.

-that the longest distance we will have to reach will be at 1,5 m to the left or the right, 1 m from the ground and at 3 m from the launcher.​

We think of using a mass of 100g for our pendulum.

Homework Equations


By Pythagoras's theorem, we can calculate the distance we want to reach.

c^2 = a^2 + b^2

Using cinematics equations, I have this :

x=V_ {xo} * t

y=V_ {yo}* t - \frac{1}{2} g t^2

The equation for a inelastic collision is :

V_ {2}=\frac{C_r m_1 V_1 + m_1 V_1}{m_1 + m_2}

For the pendulum, we have the equations of the Law of the Conservation of energy

\frac{1}{2}mV^2= m g h

The Attempt at a Solution


If we have an angle of 45 degrees, we know that the speed in x and in y will be the same and will be equal to :

V_ {xo}= V_ {yo} = V sin 45

By Pythagora's, we know that we need to reach 3,35 m in X and 1 m in Y.

With the equations of cinematics, I've got :

V=\frac{x}{\sqrt{(\frac{2(x-y)}{g})}}

and that give me V= 3,42 m/s

After that, as I know that the ball golf as a coefficient of restitution of C_r = 0.83, I have calculate that I need a speed of V= 4.2896 m/s with the equation of inelastic collision.

Finally, with the equations of the pendulum, I have calculate that I have to have a height of h = 0.937 m.Is that correct?
Thank you!
(Sorry if I have made any english errors)
 
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Maricalue said:
With the equations of cinematics, I've got :

V=x(2(xy)g)√V=\frac{x}{\sqrt{(\frac{2(x-y)}{g})}}

and that give me V=3,42m/sV= 3,42 m/s

Where does the "2" come from in the 2(x - y) term inside square root? Can you show your derivation?

Note that for 45°, sin(45) = cos(45) = 1/√2.
 
It came from the isolation:
1- x=V_ {xo} * t

2- y=V_ {yo}* t - \frac{1}{2} g t^2

In the second equation, I replace t by t=\frac{x}{V_ {xo}} and I replace V_ {xo} =V_ {yo}=Vsin45

I now have :
y=\frac{Vsin45}{Vsin45}*x - \frac{1}{2} g (\frac{x}{Vsin45})^2
And I isolate
y=x - \frac{1}{2} g (\frac{x}{Vsin45})^2
\frac{1}{2} g (\frac{x}{Vsin45})^2 = x-y
(\frac{x}{Vsin45})^2 = \frac{2(x-y)}{g}
\frac{x}{Vsin45}) = \sqrt{\frac{2(x-y)}{g}}
Vsin45 = \frac{x}{\sqrt{\frac{2(x-y)}{g}}}
And now I realized I have forgotten the sin 45 so :
V = \frac{x}{\sqrt{\frac{2(x-y)}{g}}} * \frac{1}{sin45}​
 
Okay. And sin(45) is 1/√2, so...
 
So I would need 6,84 m/s.
Then, because of the inelastic collision, I would have to have a speed of 8,57 m/s for my pendulum and a height of 3,7m??
 
Maricalue said:
So I would need 6,84 m/s.
That looks good.
Then, because of the inelastic collision, I would have to have a speed of 8,57 m/s for my pendulum and a height of 3,7m??
Hmm. I did the calculation quickly, but I didn't see a value that large: Something between 5 and 6 m/s.
 

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