What is the Initial Velocity of a Ball Thrown off a Cliff?

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The discussion revolves around determining the initial velocity of a ball thrown off a cliff, given its final velocity after 2 seconds of motion. The problem involves concepts from kinematics and projectile motion.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants are analyzing the components of the final velocity and questioning the clarity of the problem statement, particularly regarding the directional notation used (E 45 S). There are discussions about the interpretation of the angle and the implications for horizontal and vertical components of motion.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, attempting to clarify assumptions and definitions. Some have made calculations regarding the vertical component of the initial velocity, while others express confusion about the horizontal component and the overall setup of the problem.

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There is uncertainty regarding the wording of the question and the definitions of the directional components. Participants note that the problem may not align with standard conventions for describing motion in a gravitational field.

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Some dude on a cliff throws a ball with an unknown initial velocity. The ball is in motion for 2seconds before its instant velocity is mesured, being 24m/s [E 45 S]. Determine its initial velocity.

i got

g= -9,8
t= 2
instV= 24
iV=? Vx2= 24cos45 = 17m/s
Vy2= 24sin45 = 17m/s
9,8=(17 - Vy1)/2...Vy2=2,6m/s

and that's all i can get, i have the y axe vector for the initial velocity and i can't seem to figure out anything further...help needed! lol
 
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Sounds like a poorly worded question. If on a cliff, then what is E 45 S? Those are horizontal plane directions. I am confused also.
 
well i am assuming they mean 45 degrees under the horizontal axe of the top of the cliff
 
I agree with civil_dude, the question is poorly worded, unless the problem has redefined the compass orientations. N, S, E, W normally refer to directions (lateral) normal to the local gravity field, which is vertical (elevation). E45S represents a vertical plane, in that orientation.

On the other hand,

if the velocity has no vertical component and is horizontal, pointing in that direction, then one has a horizontal speed of 24 m/s at 2 seconds, which would be at the top of an arc. So it would be 48 m away and would come back to same elevation 2 sec later for a range of 96 m.

Can one determine the altitude after 2 seconds, i.e. one needs to determine the angle the ball is thrown.

One may neglect air resistance.
 
Its simply initial velocity components along with final velocity comps. and a vertical accelerated component. The final velocity, after 2 seconds, is 24m/s directed at a 45 degree angle under the horizontal pane of the top of the cliff. I found the vertical and horizontal final velocities, and managed to find the vertical initial velocity component, but am completely lost as to how to find the horizontal initial velocity comp...
 

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