What is the initial velocity of the second ball in a 2-dimensional collision?

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The discussion revolves around a two-dimensional collision involving two golf balls of equal mass. One ball has a known initial velocity, while the goal is to determine the initial velocity of the second ball based on the final velocities after the collision.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the conservation of momentum principle and resolve the velocities into components. They express confusion regarding the two-dimensional nature of the problem and the use of vector diagrams.

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Participants are exploring different methods to resolve the problem, including defining axes for momentum conservation and breaking down the velocities into components. Some guidance has been offered regarding the resolution of vectors, but the original poster continues to express uncertainty about the calculations and assumptions.

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The discussion includes attempts to clarify the setup of the problem, particularly regarding the direction of the initial velocities and the components of momentum. There is a noted difficulty in visualizing the vector diagram and applying the conservation of momentum in two dimensions.

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Two rolling golf balls of the same mass collide. The velocity of one ball is initially 2.7m/s (E). After the collision, the velocities of the balls are 2.49m/s(62.8 N of W) and 2.37m/s (69.2 S of E). What is the initial velocity of the second ball?

So i know that the masses are the same, and the initial velociy of the 1st ball.
Hence by using the conservation of momentum formula, I get
v_2= (V_1+V_2)v1
(here, the capital V's r the final velocities and the small v's are the initial velocities)
So now if it was one dimension, it straight forward. But since this is 2-dimensional, its confusing.

I know we have to draw somthing like a vector diagram. So, i tried doing that.
I tried attaching the file but I can't seem to do it. So, i'll try to explain the my diagram in words!

So one ball is moving in the north west direction, the other in the south east. I drew a line frm the centre of the 1st ball going NW. Thats V_1. With that line as the hypotunese, i drew V_1x and V_1y. And the angle betwee V_1y and V_1 is 62.8 degrees. SO i used cos and sine to figure out V_1x and V_1y. I did the same thing for the 2nd ball..This is all i could do...Any help..
 
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Define an x-axis, say the West-East line, then Nort-South is your y-axis. The resolve everything along those two axes, and work with conservation of momentum in those directions.
 
i still don't get it..ok..so i know the final velocities of both the golf balls. Hence i found the components of each final velocity.
V1x= Sin(62.5)V1, V1y= Cos(62.5)V1
V2x= Cos(69.2)V2, V2y= Sin(69.2)V2
And by using the conservation of momentum formula, i got v2= (V1=+V2)/v1
 
so now if i take the y components of each, i'll get
0=(V1y+V2y)/v1y
But v1y should be zero too yes..?..This is what i could do...
 

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