Angle between velocity vectors of 2D billiard ball collision?

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The problem involves a collision between two billiard balls, specifically focusing on the angle between the initial and final velocity vectors of the cue ball after striking the green ball. The scenario describes an elastic collision where the green ball's speed after the collision is twice that of the cue ball's speed.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the nature of the collision and the implications of kinetic energy conservation. There are attempts to relate the speeds of the balls before and after the collision to the angle between the velocity vectors.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the validity of the assumptions made regarding the collision type and the resulting velocities. Some guidance has been offered regarding the construction of a triangle to visualize the velocity vectors, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct interpretation or calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating potential confusion regarding the relationship between the speeds of the balls and the angle, as well as the implications of the collision being elastic. There is mention of a calculator error affecting one participant's previous calculations.

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Homework Statement


During a game of billiards, a white cue ball traveling at speed v strikes a green ball that was initially at rest. The green ball's speed after the collision is twice the speed of the white ball after the collision. The billiard balls have equal mass.

What is the angle between the cue ball's final velocity vector and the cue ball's initial velocity vector? (Enter an angle between 0 and 90 degrees.)

Homework Equations


v^2 = v_1^2+v_2^2

v = v_1+v_2

The Attempt at a Solution


I have determined that the speed of the cue ball after hitting the green ball is v/sqrt(5) making the speed of the green ball 2v/sqrt(5). From what I can tell cos(theta) = speed of cue ball after striking green ball/initial speed = v/sqrt(5)/v = 1/sqrt(5). But obviously this isn't correct. What am I doing wrong?
 
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What is the exact question ? What kind of collision takes place ?

Hint : Does this even seem possible ( Compare KEf and KEi ) ?
 
Qwertywerty said:
What is the exact question ? What kind of collision takes place ?

Hint : Does this even seem possible ( Compare KEf and KEi ) ?
I'm not sure what you mean... v^2 = v^2/5+4v^2/5 = v^2
its an elastic collision implying that the balls take off perpendicular to each other so I can construct a triangle
 
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naianator said:
I'm not sure what you mean... v^2 = v^/5+4v^2/5 = v^2
its an elastic collision implying that the balls take off perpendicular to each other so I can construct a triangle
naianator said:
The green ball's speed after the collision is twice the speed of the white ball after the collision.
Sorry , this seemed a bit confusing .

Okay , anyways , your answer is correct . However , what do you mean by ' constructing a triangle ' ?
 
Qwertywerty said:
Sorry , this seemed a bit confusing .

Okay , anyways , your answer is correct . However , what do you mean by ' constructing a triangle ' ?
a right triangle of the velocity vectors - initial velocity being the hypotenuse... Is that correct? Anyhow, I'm not sure how I got the wrong answer before - must have been a calculator error. Thanks!
 
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