What is the interpretation of ∅-∅?

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The discussion revolves around the interpretation of the expression ∅ - ∅ in set theory, specifically focusing on the logical implications of subtracting the empty set from itself.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the logical representation of the expression, questioning how to interpret the conditions under which elements belong to the empty set. Some suggest considering set subtraction in terms of intersection and complements.

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There are various interpretations being explored, with some participants affirming the idea that ∅ - ∅ results in the empty set. Others are prompted to clarify their understanding of the logical expressions involved.

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Some participants express confusion regarding the logical conditions that define membership in the empty set, indicating a need for further exploration of foundational concepts in set theory.

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What is ∅-∅ equal to?
Logically this is represented as the set containing all x such that x\in∅ and x\notin∅. I am confused on how to interpret this...I think the answer would just be the null set, but I am not sure. Could someone please clarify this?
 
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Think of the subtraction of sets as the intersection of the one with the complement of the other. That is ∅\cap ∅^{c}
 
There is no ##x## for which ##x \in \emptyset## and ##x \notin \emptyset##, so there are no elements in ##\emptyset - \emptyset##.
 
Makes me think of the song quite a few years back, "Nothin' from nothin' leaves nothin." - Billy Preston, 1975
 
Mark44 said:
Makes me think of the song quite a few years back, "Nothin' from nothin' leaves nothin." - Billy Preston, 1975
Great post, Mark !
 
SammyS said:
Great post, Mark !
:approve:
 
Aziza said:
What is ∅-∅ equal to?
Logically this is represented as the set containing all x such that x\in∅ and x\notin∅. I am confused on how to interpret this...I think the answer would just be the null set, but I am not sure. Could someone please clarify this?

That is exactly right. It may help to simplify that logical expression, because you can, for example, replace x \in \emptyset with a truth value.

Or maybe slightly reorganizing it to the fact that

x is in ∅-∅​

is synonymous with

x\in∅ and x\notin∅​
 

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