What is the issue with file organization in Vista and how can it be resolved?

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The discussion revolves around issues related to file organization in Windows Vista, specifically focusing on the confusion between the "Duration" and "Length" attributes when sorting music files. Participants explore the functionality and limitations of these attributes in the context of organizing files effectively.

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  • One participant expresses frustration with the file organization in Vista, noting that sorting by "Duration" results in a seemingly random order rather than a logical arrangement based on song length.
  • Another participant points out that the correct attribute to use for sorting is "Length" instead of "Duration," suggesting that this distinction can be confusing.
  • A later reply acknowledges the confusion and humorously suggests that "Duration" may be a less reliable version of "Length," indicating a lack of clarity in the software's documentation.
  • It is mentioned that "Duration" is an undocumented attribute, with no clear definition or expected behavior outlined in official documentation, leading to further uncertainty about its purpose.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that there is confusion surrounding the use of "Duration" versus "Length," but the discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific functionality and intended use of the "Duration" attribute.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in the documentation of file attributes in Vista, particularly the lack of clarity regarding the "Duration" attribute and its expected behavior.

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This thing is a mess. XP file organization was fine, but since when something works fine, people like to fix it (make it not work anymore), they made something simple into another reason to pull your hair out. I'm trying to put my music files in descending order for duration. I had to add a duration tab, because there wasn't one there before. But now that I added it, clicking on it does nothing. I can click on the name tab and it will organize in alphabetical order. When I click on duration, it changes it into a random mess. Does duration mean "random" and not the length of the song like I thought? If I click on duration again, it doesn't flip it around and put it in ascending order, like it does by clicking on the name tab. Instead, it just stays in the same random order.
Sort by duration does this, so does stack by duration. They're the exact same thing as far as I can tell. Let me try group by duration. Oh, it does the same thing as the other two.
I try to view details to show me how long each song is under the duration tab, but it shows nothing under the duration tab.
I've gotten one of these options to show me the length of the songs before, although it was pretty poor. Most were in descending order for duration, but there were some chunks at the bottom and top that were not included in the main order. But each time I've gotten it to do that, I had to struggle with this thing, trying various options until I finally got it to work. This time it's just not showing up.
 
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You're looking for "Length", not "Duration". Pretty confusing.
 
slider142 said:
You're looking for "Length", not "Duration". Pretty confusing.

Thanks. Got it pretty quickly doing it by length. Funny thing is I've never done it by length, every time I've gotten it to show the numbers, it's been with duration. So duration is just the stubborn version of length?
 
leroyjenkens said:
Thanks. Got it pretty quickly doing it by length. Funny thing is I've never done it by length, every time I've gotten it to show the numbers, it's been with duration. So duration is just the stubborn version of length?

Duration is an undocumented attribute; in no official documentation can I find what it is supposed to refer to. It is possibly meant to be populated only at the discretion of the end user or file creator, such as the 'author' attribute.
 

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