What is the kinetic energy of an object traveling at the speed of light?

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The discussion revolves around the kinetic energy of an object traveling at the speed of light, c, exploring concepts from both Einstein's special relativity and classical mechanics. Participants consider the implications of mass and velocity on kinetic energy calculations, while acknowledging the theoretical nature of the scenario since no object with mass can reach the speed of light.

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  • Some participants propose that the kinetic energy could be calculated using the formula for relativistic energy, suggesting that as velocity approaches the speed of light, kinetic energy diverges.
  • Others argue that the classical kinetic energy formula (½mv²) is not applicable at relativistic speeds and that the first formula (mc²) represents rest energy rather than kinetic energy.
  • A participant mentions that massive objects cannot travel at the speed of light and states that if they could, their kinetic energy would be infinite.
  • There is a discussion about the confusion surrounding the term "relativistic mass" and its implications for energy calculations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that no massive object can travel at the speed of light, but multiple competing views remain regarding how to conceptualize kinetic energy in this hypothetical scenario, with no consensus on the correct approach.

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Limitations include the assumption that massive objects can reach the speed of light, which is not physically possible according to current understanding. The discussion also highlights the dependence on definitions of mass and energy in relativistic contexts.

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When an object is traveling at the speed of light, c, what is its kinetic energy?
Is it the objects mass multiplied by the speed of light squared, according to Einsteins special relativity?
Or is it the objects mass multiplied by its velocity (speed of light) squared, divided by 2, according to classical mechanics?


I am aware no object with mass can go the speed of light, but let's have a little fun and assume that they can.


I'm not very good at physics, so please don't rip me apart :S
 
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joeyjo100 said:
When an object is traveling at the speed of light, c, what is its kinetic energy?
Massive objects cannot travel at the speed of light.
Is it the objects mass multiplied by the speed of light squared, according to Einsteins special relativity?
Or is it the objects mass multiplied by its velocity (speed of light) squared, divided by 2, according to classical mechanics?
For an object moving very fast (but still less than the speed of light), neither formula is correct. The second one (½mv²) is an approximation that is good for everyday speeds that are small compared to light speed. The first one doesn't make much sense. (mc2 is the rest energy of some mass.)

I am aware no object with mass can go the speed of light, but let's have a little fun and assume that they can.
It doesn't work that way. If you want a real physics answer, you have to stick within the known boundaries of what's possible. (Otherwise, how can you expect physics to give you an answer?)
 
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E=mc^2 is the rest energy of a mass. The full kinetic energy is given by \gamma m_0c^2. \gamma = (1-v^2/c^2)^{-1/2} and blows up as v -> c. So the kinetic energy would diverge as a particles velocity approached the speed of light.

On a side note, the E=mc^2 equation that everyone quotes so often has 2 meanings. If u call m the "relativistic mass" (which is rly not good practice because of all the confuson it causes), then this equation gives the correct total relativistic energy. When the m is taken as the rest mass (as it should be), this is simply the rest energy of the particle. If you take the limit v << c in the full equation, you end up with something like: E = 1/2 m_0v^2 + m_0c^2, which gives the classical Newtonian answer, plus some constant term that ends up being the energy contained in the mass.
 
joeyjo100 said:
When an object is traveling at the speed of light, c, what is its kinetic energy?
Is it the objects mass multiplied by the speed of light squared, according to Einsteins special relativity?
Or is it the objects mass multiplied by its velocity (speed of light) squared, divided by 2, according to classical mechanics?

Neither. Massive object traveling at the speed if light would have infinite kinetic energy, therefore no massive object can't travel at the speed of light.
 

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