# What is the lim as n goes to infinity of (ln(n+2))/(ln(2n))

1. Jan 4, 2015

### Randall

1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
what is the lim as n goes to infinity of (ln(n+2))/(ln(2n)) ?

2. Relevant equations

3. The attempt at a solution
It looks like you would get "small" infinity over "large" infinity, so does that make it 1? undefined? 0? thanks. Is there some simplifying I should be doing? Thanks.

2. Jan 4, 2015

### Staff: Mentor

Are you familiar with L'Hospital's Rule? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L'Hôpital's_rule

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3. Jan 4, 2015

### vela

Staff Emeritus
$\frac \infty\infty$ is an indeterminate form. To figure out if the limit exists and what it's equal to, you have to do some sort of manipulation. A common way to deal with an indeterminate form is to use, as Berkeman suggested, L'Hopital's rule. For this problem, you could also use the property $\ln ab = \ln a + \ln b$ to rewrite the quotient as
$$\frac{\ln (n+2)}{\ln 2n} = \frac{\ln [n(1+\frac 2n)]}{\ln 2n} = \frac{\ln n + \ln (1+\frac 2n)}{\ln n + \ln 2},$$ which you should be able to find the limit of now. Regardless of the method, you should get the same answer.

4. Jan 4, 2015

### Randall

Thank you all - I use L'Hospital's rule and found the limit to be 2.

5. Jan 4, 2015

### Staff: Mentor

And what do you find using Vela's hint? :-)

6. Jan 4, 2015

### Randall

I'm not sure I understood Vela's hint. That seems to have it more complex :(

7. Jan 4, 2015

### vela

Staff Emeritus
I'm kinda guessing you didn't make much of an effort at understanding what I did, or if you did, there's some basic algebra you need to brush up on.

Anyway, can you show us your work? You didn't get the right answer.

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