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What is the lim as n goes to infinity of (ln(n+2))/(ln(2n))

  1. Jan 4, 2015 #1
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    what is the lim as n goes to infinity of (ln(n+2))/(ln(2n)) ?

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    It looks like you would get "small" infinity over "large" infinity, so does that make it 1? undefined? 0? thanks. Is there some simplifying I should be doing? Thanks.
     
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  3. Jan 4, 2015 #2

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    Are you familiar with L'Hospital's Rule? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L'Hôpital's_rule
     
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  4. Jan 4, 2015 #3

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    ##\frac \infty\infty## is an indeterminate form. To figure out if the limit exists and what it's equal to, you have to do some sort of manipulation. A common way to deal with an indeterminate form is to use, as Berkeman suggested, L'Hopital's rule. For this problem, you could also use the property ##\ln ab = \ln a + \ln b## to rewrite the quotient as
    $$\frac{\ln (n+2)}{\ln 2n} = \frac{\ln [n(1+\frac 2n)]}{\ln 2n} = \frac{\ln n + \ln (1+\frac 2n)}{\ln n + \ln 2},$$ which you should be able to find the limit of now. Regardless of the method, you should get the same answer.
     
  5. Jan 4, 2015 #4
    Thank you all - I use L'Hospital's rule and found the limit to be 2.
     
  6. Jan 4, 2015 #5

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    And what do you find using Vela's hint? :-)
     
  7. Jan 4, 2015 #6
    I'm not sure I understood Vela's hint. That seems to have it more complex :(
     
  8. Jan 4, 2015 #7

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    I'm kinda guessing you didn't make much of an effort at understanding what I did, or if you did, there's some basic algebra you need to brush up on.

    Anyway, can you show us your work? You didn't get the right answer.
     
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