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Hello everyone, can anybody solve this limit? This is really tough one for me, thank you in advance.
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goody said:
Hello everyone, can anybody solve this limit without using L'Hospital's rule? This is really tough one for me, I know I'd use that x = e^lnx.

The series expansion of $\cos x = 1 - \frac 12x^2 + \ldots$.
And the expansion of $\frac 1{1-x} = 1+x+x^2+\ldots$

So:
$$\frac{\cos(x)}{\cos(2x)}
= \frac{1-\frac 12 x^2 + \ldots}{1-\frac 12 (2x)^2 + \ldots}
=\Big(1-\frac 12 x^2 + \ldots\Big)\Big(1+\frac 12 (2x)^2 - \ldots\Big)
=1+\frac 32 x^2+\ldots
$$

Consequently:
$$\lim_{x\to 0}\left(\frac{\cos(x)}{\cos(2x)}\right)^{1/x^2}
=\lim_{x\to 0}(1+\frac 32 x^2+\ldots)^{1/x^2}
=\lim_{n\to\infty} (1+\frac {3/2}n)^n
=e^{3/2}
$$

To be fair, that last step where I leave out the dots is not entirely rigorous, but we do get the result.
 
I understand that you used Maclaurin series expansion and then the first step behind first equal sign but may I ask how did we get another steps?
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goody said:
I understand that you used Maclaurin series expansion and then the first step behind first equal sign but may I ask how did we get another steps?

It's like this:
$$\Big(1-\frac 12 x^2 + \ldots\Big)\Big(1+\frac 12 (2x)^2 - \ldots\Big)\\
=1\cdot 1 -\frac 12 x^2 \cdot 1+1\cdot \frac 12 (2x)^2 - \frac 12 x^2 \cdot \frac 12 (2x)^2 + \text{ other terms with }x^4\text{ and higher order}\\
=1 + \Big(-\frac 12 + \frac 12(2^2)\Big)x^2 + \ldots \\
= 1+\frac 32 x^2 + \ldots
$$
 
Oh of course, I got it. And in the last step you just divided 3/2 by n because n is infinite number of terms behind dots or why is it like that? Why did you not divide 1 by n as well?
 
goody said:
Oh of course, I got it. And in the last step you just divided 3/2 by n because n is infinite number of terms behind dots or why is it like that? Why did you not divide 1 by n as well?

I substituted $n=\frac 1{x^2}$, which also means that $x^2=\frac 1 n$.
So we get $\Big(1 + \frac 32 x^2\Big)^{1/x^2} = \Big(1 + \frac 32 \cdot \frac 1n\Big)^n$.

Now consider the following known limit, which is one of the equivalent definitions of the exponential function:
$$\lim_{n\to\infty} \Big(1+\frac yn\Big)^n = e^y$$

Substitute $y=\frac 32$...
 
Thank you very much for your time and explanation. You really helped me a lot!
 
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goody said:
Hello everyone, can anybody solve this limit? This is really tough one for me, thank you in advance.

This is a $\displaystyle 1^{\infty} $ indeterminate form. It can be transformed into a form that can use L'Hospital's Rule by

$\displaystyle \begin{align*}
\lim_{x \to 0} \left\{ \left[ \frac{\cos{\left( x \right) }}{\cos{ \left( 2\,x \right) }} \right] ^{1/x^2} \right\} &= \lim_{x \to 0} \left( \mathrm{e}^{\ln{ \left\{ \left[ \frac{\cos{(x)}}{\cos{(2\,x)}} \right] ^{1/x^2} \right\} }}
\right) \\
&= \lim_{x \to 0} \left\{ \mathrm{e}^{\frac{1}{x^2}\ln{ \left[ \frac{\cos{(x)}}{\cos{(2\,x)}} \right] }} \right\} \\
&= \lim_{x \to 0} \left\{ \mathrm{e}^{\frac{\ln{\left[ \frac{\cos{(x)}}{\cos{(2\,x)}} \right]}}{x^2}} \right\} \\
&= \mathrm{e}^{ \lim_{x \to 0} \left\{\frac{\ln{\left[ \frac{\cos{(x)}}{\cos{(2\,x)}} \right] }}{x^2} \right\} }\end{align*} $

This limit is now a $\displaystyle \frac{0}{0} $ indeterminate form, so you can apply L'Hospital's Rule.
 
Klaas van Aarsen said:
It's like this:
$$\Big(1-\frac 12 x^2 + \ldots\Big)\Big(1+\frac 12 (2x)^2 - \ldots\Big)\\
=1\cdot 1 -\frac 12 x^2 \cdot 1+1\cdot \frac 12 (2x)^2 - \frac 12 x^2 \cdot \frac 12 (2x)^2 + \text{ other terms with }x^4\text{ and higher order}\\
=1 + \Big(-\frac 12 + \frac 12(2^2)\Big)x^2 + \ldots \\
= 1+\frac 32 x^2 + \ldots
$$

Still, now I'm wondering how we got this View attachment 9676.
Is it correct? Because I think it should be like that View attachment 9677 or did I miss something?
 

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goody said:
Still, now I'm wondering how we got this .
Is it correct? Because I think it should be like that or did I miss something?

It is correct and you are correct too.

Note that $\frac 1{1-x}=1+x+x^2+x^3+\ldots$.
Written with $y$ we have: $(1-y)^{-1}=1+y+y^2+y^3+\ldots$

Now substitute $y=\frac 12 (2x)^2 - \ldots$ and we get:

\begin{aligned}\Big(1-\frac 12 (2x)^2 + \ldots\Big)^{-1}
&=1+\Big(\frac 12 (2x)^2 - \ldots\Big) + \Big(\frac 12 (2x)^2 - \ldots\Big)^2 + \Big(\frac 12 (2x)^2 - \ldots\Big)^3 + \ldots \\
&=1 + \frac 12 (2x)^2 - \text{ higher order terms starting from }x^4
\end{aligned}
 
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So much unneccessary analysis when L'Hospital's Rule is so concise...
 
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So much unneccessary analysis when L'Hospital's Rule is so concise...

The original OP asked explicitly to do it without L'Hospital's Rule.
 
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Klaas van Aarsen said:
The original OP asked explicitly to do it without L'Hospital's Rule.

Oh really?

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Prove It said:
Oh really?

We can see the original OP in my quote in post #2:

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Also note in your screenshot the: Last edited by goody; April 6th, 2020 at 3:09.

Ah well, I was kind of happy to see that the OP showed interest in power series expansions.
They are kind of... well... powerful.

My request to goody, please don't edit an opening post after people have answered.
Or at least not without indicating that the question was edited.
 

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Klaas van Aarsen said:
Ah well, I was kind of happy to see that the OP showed interest in power series expansions.
They are kind of... well... powerful.

Nobody's saying they aren't, I guess I'm just someone who believes in Occam's Razor, that the simplest and most concise solution is the best one.
 

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