What is the limit of tan(x)^sin(x) as x->0+

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The discussion revolves around finding the limit of the expression tan(x)^sin(x) as x approaches 0 from the positive side. Participants are exploring the behavior of this limit, particularly focusing on the forms that arise when substituting values and applying calculus techniques.

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  • Participants discuss rewriting the limit in terms of logarithms and applying L'Hôpital's rule due to the indeterminate form encountered. There are attempts to manipulate the expression into forms that can be analyzed further, including using limits of known functions.

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The discussion is active, with various approaches being proposed, including the use of L'Hôpital's rule and transformations of the limit expression. Some participants express uncertainty about the outcomes, particularly regarding whether the limit exists or diverges.

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There are mentions of specific values leading to indeterminate forms, and some participants question the validity of certain derivatives used in their calculations. The context includes a mix of theoretical exploration and practical application of calculus rules.

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What is the limit of tan(x)^sin(x) as x-->0+

Homework Statement


[tex]Lim\rightarrow0^{+}((tan(x))^{sin(x)}[/tex]

Homework Equations


I know that you have to raise e to this limit and you can then bring down sin(x) to get [tex](sin(x))(ln(tan(x)))[/tex], but beyond that, I am stuck.

The Attempt at a Solution


I guess above is a bit of both an attempt and relevant equations.
 
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Well, [itex]\sin(0)=0[/itex] and [itex]\ln(\tan(0))=\infty[/itex], so If you write it in the form :[tex]\frac{\ln(\tan(x))}{\frac{1}{\sin(x)}}[/tex], you have a limit of the form [tex]\frac{\infty}{\infty}[/tex] and you can apply L'hospital's rule.
 


do
lim tan(x)^sin(x)=[lim sin(x)^sin(x)]/[lim cos(x)^sin(x)]
use lim x^x=1

if you want to go forward from where were, do you know l'hospital's rule?
lim sin(x)log(tan(x))=lim log(tan(x))/csc(x)=lim [log(tan(x))]'/[csc(x)]'
 


gabbagabbahey said:
Well, [itex]\sin(0)=0[/itex] and [itex]\ln(\tan(0))=\infty[/itex], so If you write it in the form :[tex]\frac{\ln(\tan(x))}{\frac{1}{\sin(x)}}[/tex], you have a limit of the form [tex]\frac{\infty}{\infty}[/tex] and you can apply L'hospital's rule.

log(tan(0+)=-infinity

Why is L'hospital's rule suggested so frequently on limit problems?
I used to mock the Hughes-Hallett Calculus book for (among other things) omiting L'hospital's rule, but now I am beginning to understand why.

Here is an extra few for practice (all limit's x->0)

lim x/x=lim x'/x'=lim 1/1=lim 1=1
lim x^x=exp(lim [log(x)]'/[1/x]')=exp(lim (1/x)/(-1/x^2))=exp(lim -x)=exp(0)=1
lim [1/x-1/x]=lim 0'/x'=lim 0/1=0
 
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Okay, so I got [tex]((1/(tan(x)(cos^{2}(x))))/((sin(x))/(cos^{2}(x)) = (cos(x)/(sin^{2}(x))[/tex] This limit still equals infinity though, and I can' see L'hopital's rule getting me any beyond a term with infinity in it.

EDIT: Oh, so does that mean the limit DNE?
 
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iatnogpitw said:
Okay, so I got [tex]((1/(tan(x)(cos^{2}(x))))/((sin(x))/(cos^{2}(x)) = (cos(x)/(sin^{2}(x))[/tex] This limit still equals infinity though, and I can' see L'hopital's rule getting me any beyond a term with infinity in it.

EDIT: Oh, so does that mean the limit DNE?

Errrrmm is [tex]\frac{d}{dx}\frac{1}{\sin x}[/tex] REALLY [tex]\frac{\sin x}{\cos^2 x}[/tex] ?:wink:
 

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