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The discussion revolves around a limit and integration problem involving the function f(x) defined as the limit of an expression involving exponential and logarithmic functions. Participants are exploring the implications of this limit on the integration of f(x) divided by a trigonometric expression.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants attempt to evaluate the limit of f(x) and question the validity of their reasoning regarding the behavior of logarithmic functions as n approaches infinity. There is also an exploration of integration techniques and substitutions.

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Some participants have provided insights on the limit evaluation and questioned assumptions made about logarithmic behavior. There is ongoing exploration of integration methods, with some participants expressing uncertainty about their approaches and seeking clarification.

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Participants note a lack of confidence in their understanding and mention the need for revision of relevant mathematical concepts. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity of the limit and integration involved in the problem.

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Homework Statement


if f(x)= lim(n→∞) e^(xtan(1/n)log(1/n)) and ∫f(x)/(sin^11x.cosx)^1/3 dx=g(x)+c, then
1) g(pi/4)=3/2
2) g(x) is continuous for all x
3) g(pi/4)= -15/8
4) g(pi/4)=12

2. The attempt at a solution
Part a-Evaluating the limit, since 1/n tends to 0, log(1/n)→-∞=-n, using tan(1/n)/(1/n)=1, I get f(x)=e^(-x)
Part b-I tried substituting -x=t, which gives -∫e^t/(-sin^11t.cost)...I'm stuck here, would appreciate some insight, also let me know if part a is correct (I'm not very confident)
 
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Krushnaraj Pandya said:

Homework Statement


if f(x)= lim(n→∞) e^(xtan(1/n)log(1/n)) and ∫f(x)/(sin^11x.cosx)^1/3 dx=g(x)+c, then
1) g(pi/4)=3/2
2) g(x) is continuous for all x
3) g(pi/4)= -15/8
4) g(pi/4)=12

2. The attempt at a solution
Part a-Evaluating the limit, since 1/n tends to 0, log(1/n)→-∞=-n, using tan(1/n)/(1/n)=1, I get f(x)=e^(-x)
Part b-I tried substituting -x=t, which gives -∫e^t/(-sin^11t.cost)...I'm stuck here, would appreciate some insight, also let me know if part a is correct (I'm not very confident)

No, no, no! You absolutely cannot say that ##\log (1/n) \to -\infty = -n##. There are different "levels" of infinity. For example, ##n/(n^2+n) \to 0##, even though both the numerator and denominator ##\to \infty.##

In fact, ##(1/n) \log(1/n) = (1/n) (- \log n) = - \log(n)/n.## You can evaluate that limit using l'Hospital's rule.
 
Ray Vickson said:
No, no, no! You absolutely cannot say that ##\log (1/n) \to -\infty = -n##. There are different "levels" of infinity. For example, ##n/(n^2+n) \to 0##, even though both the numerator and denominator ##\to \infty.##

In fact, ##(1/n) \log(1/n) = (1/n) (- \log n) = - \log(n)/n.## You can evaluate that limit using l'Hospital's rule.
ohh, right...I really forgot to revise the chapters I did (sigh!). so -log(n)/n comes out to be -(1/n) which is 0 so f(x) tends to 1, correct?
 
Krushnaraj Pandya said:
ohh, right...I really forgot to revise the chapters I did (sigh!). so -log(n)/n comes out to be -(1/n) which is 0 so f(x) tends to 1, correct?
following that logic, In the integration part I wrote 1/(sin^(11/3)*cos^(1/3), then multiplied and divided by sin^3(x)cos^3(x) which gave cot^2(x)cosec^8(x), putting cosecx=t, it reduced to integral of t^7 - t^9, yet it doesn't give the correct answer
(PS-sorry I didn't write using LaTex, I need some time to learn it)
 
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Krushnaraj Pandya said:
ohh, right...I really forgot to revise the chapters I did (sigh!). so -log(n)/n comes out to be -(1/n) which is 0 so f(x) tends to 1, correct?
Correct.
 

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