What is the longest wavelength for ionizing ground state hydrogen atom?

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The discussion revolves around the ionization of a ground state hydrogen atom using electromagnetic radiation, specifically focusing on determining the longest wavelength capable of achieving this ionization.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between energy levels in hydrogen and the corresponding wavelengths of radiation needed for ionization. Questions arise regarding the appropriate series (Lyman, Balmer, Paschen) to use for the calculations and the interpretation of energy levels.

Discussion Status

Participants have engaged in clarifying the energy requirements for ionization and the correct application of the Lyman series formula. Some have provided calculations and corrections, indicating a productive exchange of ideas, though no explicit consensus has been reached on the final value.

Contextual Notes

There is a focus on the energy deficit associated with the ground state of hydrogen and the need to consider transitions to an infinite energy level for ionization. Participants are navigating the implications of different energy levels and the corresponding wavelengths.

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Homework Statement


Is it possible to use electromagnetic radiation to ionize atoms. To do so, the atoms must absorb the radiation, the photons of which must have enough energy to remove an electron from an atom. What is the longest radiation wavelength (nm) that can be used to ionize the ground state hydrogen atom?



Homework Equations


Lyman Series:
1/lambda = R {(1/nf^2) - (1/ni^2)}



The Attempt at a Solution


According to my notes, the lyman series consists of transitions TO the ground state (n=1) starting with the first excited state (n=2). What i am having trouble with here is that when they say "What is the longest wavelength that can be used to ionize the ground state hydrogen?" Are they asking what wavelength of radiation will cause hydrogen to go from n=1 to n=0? Should i be using the Balmer or Paschen series instead of the Lyman? I know how to work the math part of the problem but i am confused as to what values i should be using for n.
 
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If you are initially in the ground state, then to remove the electron you need to raise it past all of the bound states. You could sort of say you want to move it to n=infinity.
 
What you need to know is the energy defecit of the elctron in the ground state. Each level has a negative energy associated with it. In hydrogen, n=1 , the deficit is -13.6 eV. Guess how much energy the photon must have to free this electron?

For the Lyman formula to work, you are going from energy level 1 to energy level "infinity," not to zero.

edit: Dang. Beat again.
 
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how does this look?

lambda = R [(1/infinity)-(1/1^2)]^-1
lambda= 9.12x10^-8 meters or 91.2 nm
 
Nope. It's 91.3 nm:biggrin:
 
got it right finally. thanks
 

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