Electromagnetic emission lines for a hydrogen atom

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The discussion revolves around determining the initial principal quantum number associated with electromagnetic emission lines for a hydrogen atom, specifically focusing on a wavelength of 389 nm. The context involves the Lyman, Balmer, and Paschen series, with the Rydberg energy provided as 13.6 eV.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to use the equation ΔE=Ry(1/(ni)² - 1/(nf)²) and equate it to E=hc/λ to find the initial quantum number. They express confusion over not obtaining integer values for ni when varying nf.

Discussion Status

Participants are engaging in clarifying the approach to the problem. One participant suggests checking the placement of ni and nf in the equation, while the original poster acknowledges the mistake. There is an ongoing exploration of methods without a definitive consensus on the correct approach yet.

Contextual Notes

The original poster mentions that the exercise is for exam practice, indicating a constraint on using external tables or resources during the exam.

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Homework Statement


Hi, I've been unable to find a relevant thread for a question that I've been stuck on for a couple of days now.

Here it is;

One of the electromagnetic emission lines for a hydrogen atom has wavelength 389nm. Assiming that this is a line from one of the Lyman (nf =1 ), Balmer (nf = 2) or Paschen (nf =3) series, what is the initial principle quantum number associated with the transitions? The Rydberg energy can be assumed to be 13.6eV

Homework Equations


ΔE=Ry(1/(ni)2 - 1/(nf)2))
Ry=13.6eV

This is the formula used to attempt a solution

There is another formula in my notes that may be helpful but i do not understand the symbols within it, it is;
En,l = -Ry/(n-δl)2

The Attempt at a Solution



Using the equation ΔE=Ry(1/(ni)2 - 1/(nf)2)) and then equating this change in energy to the energy of light E=hc/λ.
Ry=13.6eV
Then I insert various nf 's e.g. nf =1 for Lyman, then i would solve this for ni to see if i get an integer number, indicating that this is correct. I do this for nf =1,2 and 3 and I have never got an integer number leading me to believe my method is incorrect.

Any help or insight would be appreciated,

Thanks in advance, John.
 
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I forgot to mention doing these questions are purely for exam practice. So having the tables will no be an option.

How would i do this in an exam? Simply put the numbers in as i have done and then chose the one which is closest to an integer value to be the correct one?

Thank, John
 
Jdraper said:
Using the equation ΔE=Ry(1/(ni)2 - 1/(nf)2))

Check your equation in regard to the placement of ni and nf.

I think your approach to the problem is good.
 
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Ahh, yes, the ni and nf are the wrong way around. Thanks for your help :)
 

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