What is the Magnetic Flux through a Loop with Opposite Magnetic Fields?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the magnetic flux through a loop subjected to opposing magnetic fields. Participants are exploring the implications of the magnetic field directions and their effects on the flux calculation.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of magnetic flux, questioning the treatment of magnetic fields with opposite directions. There is an exploration of whether to assign different signs to the magnetic fields and how this affects the overall flux calculation.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on focusing on the total flux rather than a change in flux. There is an ongoing exploration of the definitions and implications of magnetic flux as a scalar quantity, with some clarification on the relationship between magnetic fields and flux.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the distinction between total flux and changes in flux, with references to Faraday's law and the nature of magnetic field lines. The problem context includes assumptions about the setup and the specific requirements of the homework task.

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Homework Equations


Flux = DeltaB * Area

The Attempt at a Solution

: Since the magnetic fields are going in opposite directions through the loop, I assumed that they would have different signs, so I chose 2.0 T to be positive and 1.0 to be negative, so when calculating the change in magnetic field, I did -1.0-2.0 = -3.0. Why is this not the case? Thanks![/B]
 
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ATT182 said:
so when calculating the change in magnetic field, I did -1.0-2.0 = -3.0. Why is this not the case? Thanks!

You are not asked to find a change in flux. You just need to find the total flux through the entire loop.

Imagine dividing the loop into left and right halves.
 
The change in field with respect to spatial variable is indeed -3 as we move from right to left, BUT

Faraday's law wants us to calculate the change in flux with respect to the time variable.
 
TSny said:
Welcome to PF!
You are not asked to find a change in flux. You just need to find the total flux through the entire loop.

Imagine dividing the loop into left and right halves.
Thank you! I'm starting to see it, but isn't the flux due to a change in magnetic field? So I'm still not so sure why you wouldn't choose one to be negative. Is this because flux is a scalar quantity?
 
ATT182 said:
isn't the flux due to a change in magnetic field?
Flux is essentially just the number of magnetic field lines piercing through the loop. Field lines in one direction count positive while field lines in the opposite direction count negative.

If the magnetic field changes, or if the size of the loop changes, or if the orientation of the loop changes, then the flux through the loop can change. A change in flux induces an emf in the loop.

But this problem is not concerned with emf or with a change in flux. It just asks for the flux for the situation shown in the figure.
 
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