What is the magnitude of the net gravitational force

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the net gravitational force acting on a third sphere due to two other spheres with given masses and positions. The context is gravitational force, specifically applying Newton's law of gravitation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculations of gravitational forces from two spheres and question the use of trigonometric functions for determining angles. There is also a focus on ensuring the correct value of the gravitational constant is used.

Discussion Status

The discussion has progressed with some participants verifying calculations and correcting earlier mistakes. There is a shift towards exploring the conditions under which the net gravitational force on the third sphere would be zero, with some initial equations being proposed.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the information available for solving the problem. There is an ongoing exploration of the placement of the third sphere to achieve a specific gravitational condition.

QuarkCharmer
Messages
1,049
Reaction score
3
Gravitation Force (Solved, thanks)

Homework Statement


A sphere with mass of 65kg and center at origin. Another sphere with mass 79kg at point (0,3), also centered at origin.

A.) What is the magnitude of the net gravitational force due to these objects on a third uniform sphere with mass 0.490 kg placed at the point (4,0)

Homework Equations


[tex]F_{g} = \frac{GMm}{r^{2}}[/tex]
[tex]G = 6.67(10^{-11})[/tex]


The Attempt at a Solution


I made this image to help:
j91o3k.jpg


Force from the 79kg sphere:
[tex]FG_{1}=\frac{G(.490)(79)}{5^{2}}[/tex]

Force from the 65kg sphere
[tex]FG_{2}=\frac{G(.490)(65)}{4^{2}}[/tex]

So the net force on the .490 kg sphere is given by:
[tex]\sqrt{(FG_{2} + FG_{1}cos(tan^{-1}(\frac{3}{4})))^{2}+(FG_{1}sin(tan^{-1}(\frac{3}{4})))^{2}}[/tex]

I get the net force on the 0.490 kg sphere to be 3.48 N. Which is incorrect? I don't know what is wrong.
 
Last edited:
Physics news on Phys.org
What did you use for G?

You can find the cosine and sine of the angle at the 0.49 kg mass directly from the right triangle.

ehild
 
ehild said:
What did you use for G?

You can find the cosine and sine of the angle at the 0.49 kg mass directly from the right triangle.

ehild

I used 6.67 * 10^-11 for G.

What do you mean about the cos/sin ? arctan(3/4) is the angle near the .490kg sphere, so the equation should hold?
 
QuarkCharmer said:
I used 6.67 * 10^-11 for G.

What do you mean about the cos/sin ? arctan(3/4) is the angle near the .490kg sphere, so the equation should hold?

The sine of the angle is opposite/hypotenuse=3/5. The cosine is adjacent/hypotenuse=4/5. Is not that simpler than taking the cosine and sine of arctan(3/4)? It is not wrong, just strange.

Check your calculation. I think you forgot the 10^-11.

ehild
 
You are correct. I don't know why I was thinking that I needed to determine the angle via inverse trig.

I did the computations over and somehow it came out correct this time.
It was 2.24*10^5 N. I must have missed something somewhere.

Thanks

Now I am working through this part:

Where, other than infinitely far away, could the third sphere be placed such that the net gravitational force acting on it from the other two spheres is equal to zero?

But I'm still working it out.

I am thinking that:
[tex]\frac{G(.409)(79)}{d^{2}} = \frac{G(.409)(65)}{(3-d)^{2}}[/tex]
[tex]\frac{(79)}{d^{2}} = \frac{(65)}{(3-d)^{2}}[/tex]
[tex]9-6d+d^{2}=\frac{65}{79}d^}{2}[/tex]

so basically the third sphere needs to be at the point (0,1.43) ?

Edit: Yeah that's all correct!

Thanks for the help.
 
Last edited:

Similar threads

  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
5K
Replies
8
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K