What is the matrix representation of T ο L with respect to E?

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The discussion focuses on finding the matrix representation of the composition of two linear transformations, T and L, given their respective matrices A and B. The correct approach involves multiplying the matrices B and A in that order, resulting in the matrix representation of T ο L. The calculations confirm that the product yields the matrix [[-8, 3, -1], [8, 1, 7], [14, 0, 13]]. It is emphasized that matrix multiplication is not commutative, making the order of multiplication crucial. The method of calculating the product is validated through an explanation of how to interpret the rows and columns as vectors.
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Homework Statement


The problem states that we have L as the linear transformation as:
\begin{align*}
A=
\left(
\begin{array}{ccc}
2 & 0 & 1 \\
-2 & 3 & 2 \\
4 & 1 & 5
\end{array}
\right)
\end{align*}

And when given another linear transformation T as:
\begin{align*}
B=
\left(
\begin{array}{ccc}
-3 & 1 & 0 \\
2 & 0 & 1 \\
0 & -1 & 3
\end{array}
\right)
\end{align*}

Then find the matrix representation of T ο L with respect to E(which is the standard basis, as are both transformations).

T ο L is the composition of T and L.

Homework Equations


I assumed you could just multiply the two matrices togeather, as they share the same basis, thus getting the composition of the two lineartransformations?

The Attempt at a Solution


\begin{align*}
T&=B=
\left(
\begin{array}{ccc}
-3 & 1 & 0 \\
2 & 0 & 1 \\
0 & -1 & 3
\end{array}
\right)\\
L&=A=
\left(
\begin{array}{ccc}
2 & 0 & 1 \\
-2 & 3 & 2 \\
4 & 1 & 5
\end{array}
\right)\\
\end{align*}

\begin{align*}
BA&=
\left(
\begin{array}{ccc}
-3 & 1 & 0 \\
2 & 0 & 1 \\
0 & -1 & 3
\end{array}
\right)
\left(
\begin{array}{ccc}
2 & 0 & 1 \\
-2 & 3 & 2 \\
4 & 1 & 5
\end{array}
\right)\\
&=
\left(
\begin{array}{ccc}
-8 & 3 & -1 \\
8 & 1 & 7 \\
14 & 0 & 13
\end{array}
\right)
\end{align*}

Or is this completely wrong?
 
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I didn't check that you multiplied the matrices together correctly, but assuming you did, that's the right answer.
 
crashh said:
I assumed you could just multiply the two matrices togeather, as they share the same basis, thus getting the composition of the two lineartransformations?
No need to assume it. The number on row i, column j of the matrix corresponding to an arbitrary linear operator A is ##A_{ij}=\langle e_i,Ae_j\rangle##. So
\begin{align}
&(T\circ L)_{ij}=\langle e_i,(T\circ L)e_j\rangle =\langle e_i,T(Le_j)\rangle =\left\langle e_i,T\left(\sum_k \langle e_k,Le_j\rangle e_k\right)\right\rangle\\
&=\sum_k\langle e_k,Le_j\rangle \langle e_i,Te_k\rangle =\sum_k L_{kj}T_{ik} =\sum_k T_{ik}L_{kj}.
\end{align}
 
Yes, that is the correct product of the two matrices. One way to remember how to multiply matrices is to think of the rows of the first matrix and the columns of the second matrix as "vectors". If a_{ij} is the number in the i row, j column of the product matrix, then a_{ij} is the dot product of the i row of the first matrix and the j column of the second matrix.

For example, the first row of the first matrix, B, is <-3, 1, 0> and the first column of the second matrix, A, is <2, -, 4> so the number in the first row, first column, of BA is (-3)(2)+ 1(-2)+ 0(4)= -8 as you have.

And, of course, the order of the multiplication (BA rather than AB) is important because matrix multiplication is NOT commutative. The multiplication of the matrices must be the same as the order in which the transformation are applied.
 
Question: A clock's minute hand has length 4 and its hour hand has length 3. What is the distance between the tips at the moment when it is increasing most rapidly?(Putnam Exam Question) Answer: Making assumption that both the hands moves at constant angular velocities, the answer is ## \sqrt{7} .## But don't you think this assumption is somewhat doubtful and wrong?

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