What Is the Maximum Frequency in the Fourier Transform of a Rectangular Pulse?

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The discussion revolves around the maximum frequency in the Fourier Transform of a rectangular pulse and its implications for sampling, particularly in relation to Nyquist's theorem. Participants explore the nature of the pulse, its representation, and the conditions under which aliasing may or may not occur.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how to find the maximum frequency of a rectangular pulse, suggesting a formula involving the half period Tp.
  • Another participant asserts that there is no maximum frequency component of a rectangular pulse in the continuous time domain and challenges the initial question.
  • A participant clarifies their context, indicating they are dealing with a rectangular pulse with a half period T0 and seeks justification for sampling conditions to avoid aliasing.
  • Another participant suggests that the term "half period" implies a pulse train rather than a single pulse, leading to a discussion about the implications of sampling rates.
  • One participant emphasizes that a single rectangular pulse is not periodic and discusses the challenges of reconstructing such a pulse through sampling.
  • A hypothetical example is presented involving a specific pulse function to illustrate potential sampling issues and the loss of information if sampling does not meet certain criteria.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of the rectangular pulse and its frequency components, with no consensus reached on the maximum frequency or the implications for sampling. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the correct interpretation of the pulse and its sampling conditions.

Contextual Notes

There are ambiguities regarding the definitions of "half period" and "periodic" in the context of a single pulse versus a pulse train. Additionally, the discussion highlights the dependence on specific sampling conditions and the challenges of reconstructing signals from samples.

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Homework Statement


Since the Fourier Transform of a rectangular Pulse with a half period of Tp contains an infinite number of frequencies, how can you find the max one to check if Nyquist's theorem holds?


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nyquist–Shannon_sampling_theorem


The Attempt at a Solution


I don't suppose Ωmax = 2*pi / Tp ?
 
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There is no maximum frequency component of a rectangular pulse in the continuous time domain, as you wrote. So don't attempt to find one! What is the problem statement?

Also, typically we'd use ω to represent angular frequency, not Ω.
 
I just have a rectangular pulse, with a half period T0, and I'm asked to justify :
"if we take samples with sampling period Ts < 2*T0 , no aliasing occurs"

Don't i need to find the maximum frequency of the signal to do that?
 
".. a half-period of T0 ..." suggests you have not one pulse but a pulse TRAIN, alternating between 0 and V at a 50% duty cycle ...

Assume your first sample occurs just before the rising edge of the pulse, at a sample rate of 2T0 - ε where ε → 0, satisfying Ts < 2T0, then obviously your samples would all be zero forever!
 
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half period T0, meaning that the singal is P(t) = u(t+T0) - u(T-T0) , where u is the heavside step.
 
You can only talk about a "period" in reference to a pulse train, not a single pulse. A single pulse is not "periodic".

OK, so we have a single rectangular pulse of duration 2T0, centered at t = 0. Is that right?

OK, now we're guaranteed that one of the first two samples will be 1, then the rest of course will all be zero. We have to know ahead of time that the pulse is rectangular. Only in that sense can we claim some kind of valid sampling.

In general, a sampler cannot ever reconstruct a single pulse faithfully unless Ts → 0.

Suppose for example your pulse is u(t+T0)sinωt - U(t-T0)sin(ωt), ω = π/2T0. That pulse is zero for t < - T0, max'es out to 1 at t = 0, then goes back to zero for t > +T0. The sampler might sample at t = -T0 and then again at t = +T0 - ε where ε is an arbitrarily small quantity. This meets the criterion that Ts < 2T0. But your samples would be 0, ε, 0, 0, ... , totally losing the peak at t = 0.
 

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