What is the Meaning of Life for the Universe?

[drag]

Originally posted by Mentat
...his/her...

You dissapoint me Mentat.

Originally posted by Kerrie
i can't stand madonna...

 

[Eyesee]

The line by the Police (the audible part anyway) goes "We are spirits... in the material world",
the one by Madonna goes " We are living in a material world"

 

[Mentat]

Originally posted by drag
You dissapoint me Mentat.

Well, I guess one could assume that the member would be male, given the name M. Gasper. However, I'm never sure (there are some strange people out there), so courtesy requires that I don't assume any gender for the member, until informed of what their actual gender is.

 

[drag]

Originally posted by Mentat
Well, I guess one could assume that the member would be male, given the name M. Gasper. However, I'm never sure (there are some strange people out there), so courtesy requires that I don't assume any gender for the member, until informed of what their actual gender is.

You misunderstood me - it was I who mentioned
Madonna in the first place so I assumed you
were adressing me.

 

[Netme]

The universe as we know it has been slowed down from its actual speed giving us time to explore the god set boundries in which we call space. We have evolved from dolphins who stranded themselves on shores purposely to create land capable beings of their kind.

 

[M. Gaspar]

Netme

Yes, we all need more time.

 

[Mentat]

Originally posted by drag
You misunderstood me - it was I who mentioned
Madonna in the first place so I assumed you
were adressing me.

I see. I was referring to M. Gaspar though. I don't call you a he/she (even though I don't have any conclusive statement of your gender) .

 

[chosenone]

I play the drums and I'll only listen to heavy metal.but eminem the new rock rap is alright only because just like ice tea when he did body count.a black rapper tried to bridge the gap between rock and rap by doing rock.it was his way of stopping racism.because the war between rock and rap,is just another way for people to have another way of keeping racism alive through music instead of doing it directly.so eminem is sort of doing the same thing trying to be a white person doing rap.and he might just make it.anyway back to the post topic.would'nt it be cool if we where all the reincarnation of the dinosaurs,and for 1 billion years our souls have been advancing through time to this point,living again and again.till human form came into existence,we final understood what it meant to be aware of the universe from primal animals,spiritually i mean!

 

[M. Gaspar]

Say what...?

Are we off topic here?



The "meaning of life' might be the meaning we GIVE it...

so...?

 

[chosenone]

Well like i originally posted that started this thread was that the meaning of life,is to be the meaning of life of another being,as part of his existence."god".were what god does to kill time,create us.our thoughts,our lives,everthing we think,do,and are,are his to do,for us, as we do them,as he does them for us,so ever time you ask what the meaning of life is!he's making you ask.and when your done asking,did he give you and answer?

 

[chosenone]

so do you think when poeple ask what the meaning of life is,they expect an answer?NO.so why do we ask?their just awed at they awareness of life,and don't have an explanation for it.so they spend their time pursueing science and philosophy,or theology,in a attempt to find the answers.they hope science can explain how life could be formed randomlly on a planet.or prove God exists.And if science can explain it,theirs still not answer,because you can't answer WHY,in the first place.If God exist then that's just the first question answers,how and why we exist,but then the next question is how did he come into existence.was there a begining,or has he always been?so even if we prove God exist,will we have a answer to these question?I guess god can only answer that!

 

[Messiah]

If all which exists was created and god exists, then he must have been created - - - as must have been any predecessors.

This kind of chicken and the egg redundancy implies no logical 'beginning'.

If you argue god was not subject to the laws of nature, you are discarding logic entirely.

Creation is, simply, a process cause and effect.

Why do you believe the phenomenon of existence is based on a process?

Mankind tends to personify the nature of the Universe. Since life has a beginning and an end, it is assumed the Universe must also have had a beginning.

This is not logic.

 

[Netme]

You don't know what your talking about..

 

[M. Gaspar]

Netme...

None of us do.

It's all speculation.

 

[greeneagle3000]

what i believe

this is to what i believe.
there is more then one god.
we are here for a reason. everything happens for a reason.
there are extraterrestial life in outer space.
there is more then one universe.

 

[chosenone]

Any other God,is just God with another name.So when looking for an answer to the question have you ever tries to answer it as if god gave it to you.what would it be?what would it sound like when you heared it?would it make you feel tiggly all over?would you faint and pass out from the shock of accually getting it and never expected it?would you feel warm all over cause it made you feel so good?what is it you want, when you ask the question?.what is in the answer you need to know? you are alive that all that really matter.anything else you put to it doesn't matter.

 

[Messiah]

Originally posted by Netme
You don't know what your talking about..

Can you be a little more specific.
Your ad hominem rebuttal leaves much to be desired.
If you can refute the logic, please share your wisdom with us.

 

[David Kemp]

I’m virtually certain that the meaning of life is to discover and experience emotion. If you think about it every act we do is focused of experiencing a pleasant emotion or a avoiding an unpleasant one. In the case when we are studying math or physics, for example, we are in that case exploring more the structure of emotion rather than seeking to experience emotion in the raw. This point of view extends from my belief that emotion is the substance of reality and that matter is a construct. The purpose of the material construct being to guide us and aid us in the exploration of emotion. Think the movie Matrix.
If anyone has an example that seems to fly in the face of my points of view I would love to hear about them.

 

[chosenone]

When someone asks the question"What is the meaning of life?" it was a retoricle question.

 

[Netme]

Originally posted by David Kemp
I’m virtually certain that the meaning of life is to discover and experience emotion. If you think about it every act we do is focused of experiencing a pleasant emotion or a avoiding an unpleasant one. In the case when we are studying math or physics, for example, we are in that case exploring more the structure of emotion rather than seeking to experience emotion in the raw. This point of view extends from my belief that emotion is the substance of reality and that matter is a construct. The purpose of the material construct being to guide us and aid us in the exploration of emotion. Think the movie Matrix.
If anyone has an example that seems to fly in the face of my points of view I would love to hear about them.

Yes you are right Emotion is one of the subjects that are used in the experiment called life. But remember we are an experiment and nothing more.

 

[greeneagle3000]

many gods

that is out of topic but i don't like god.

the meaning of life, i didn't say i was right.
-> everything happens for a reason.
we are here for a reason. we are on a journey. and through this journey, we will stumble upon obstacles and bad things. and we have to overcome them instead of falling into them. which way you choose, will be your destiny.

if i go on more, something bad will happen so i will stop here.

 

[chosenone]

If jesus where alive I'm sure he doesn't like god either.he's suppose to justify to poeple,God evil and atocities that he does to poeple.and is suppose to buy it himself,and try to sell it to poeple,saying he has a plan and it will work out.some times that's not good enough for poeple.

 

[David Kemp]

I agree there can't be any evil if God is good and infinite, the idea of a Good God and a the idea of a victim contradict each other on both an intellectual level and on an emotional level. Both can not exist. The events we call "bad" are simply events that have been allowed to occur because certain lessons needed to be learnt. A mother allows her young child to scrap its knee because the child would not learn anything if it was magically caught each time he or she tripped. The child would not learn cause and effect. To learn we have to be allowed to experience the results of our actions. A scrapped knee is not the end of the world and neither was the holocaust. No one spiritually “died” in the holocaust, in fact its my belief that many of those that physically died then are living in Israel today. By the way, the existence of Israel today of is a direct result of the holocaust, those that died in the holocaust would not have been the first to die for the sake their homeland.
This universe is a school and we are here to learn. As I believe emotion is the substance of reality, we are here to learn the nature of emotion and how to control and use it.
I agree emotion may turn out to be just one aspect of reality but for me, it is reality’s touch stone. To be conscious of ones emotions is to be conscious of one’s inner self, one’s spiritual self. It is to be conscious of spirit.

 

[chosenone]

in the universw the exists what is called the mindscape.it means all things that exist already exist and you only become aware of them.anything there is that you can know ,understand,build have a theory about,already exist your just not aware of it.the meaning of life is in the pursuit of finding the thing that exist in all infinity that there is to become aware of.

 

[jammieg]

"There's way to much information to decode the matrix" -Cipher

The meaning of life is dependent on the exact meaning of the question.
The meaning that is most commonly sought after is- how should I live my life?
The answer is dependent on the person. Do you want to be a politician or a musician? Essentially the answer is to pursue your dreams, the actually obtainment or accomplishment of you dreams isn't as important as the journey.
This is my own experience, I remember myself being the happiest when pursuing a dream, not actually catching one, although some dreams come true and this encourages us. The sad thing for me to see is people who have given up and desire nothing more in life than to watch it go by vicariously on the comfort of their couch. Do you remember when you were happiest?

 

[greeneagle3000]

Originally posted by jammieg
"There's way to much information to decode the matrix" -Cipher

hmm.. you had to mention it so don't kill me if i do.

that is a diffrent story though the philosophy has very much a lot of things to do with the natural order of life. i am talking about the matrix but i won't because i know what will happen.

like i said before, everything does happen for a reason and we choose our reason of life. and if we allow fate to control us, it will.

 

[chosenone]

the meaning of life,is to pursue finding what the meaning of life is,whether we find it or not,whether it exists or not whether there will every be a answer accepted by man as the offical answer to the question, or it stays personal believe,we will not stop until we find it.or we die trying.which is the point!

 

[Messiah]

TRUE MEANING OF LIFE = "not dead"

 

[Dissident Dan]

Correction:

meaning of life = the property of things which are not dead

 

[Iacchus32]

From the thread, https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=609" ...

Originally posted by Iacchus32

The mystery is that which lies within. And yet the mystery is none other than the essence which gives rise to form. Whereas all mysteries are pretty much one and the same, in that they lead to the one true mystery, The Mystery of Life ...

From the thread, https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=611" ...

Originally posted by Iacchus32

Knowledge is the form (external). Wisdom is the essence (internal).

What point is knowledge? if it doesn't exist to serve wisdom?

Which is more important? The (external) facts? Or, the (internal) experience which leads to the facts?

Is it only knowledge that we seek? (physical evidence). Or, do we seek "context" (and the essence within).

Can life be sustained outside of context? outside of a form designed to suit it? which has not been corrupted or breeched?

What point is a dead corpse? without a spirit or essence to move it?

What point is a dead (physical) universe? without a Divine Essence to set it in motion?

What is an (external) effect without a (internal) cause?

What point is knowledge? if it doesn't exist to serve wisdom? ...

 

[Messiah]

Originally posted by Dissident Dan
Correction:

meaning of life = the property of things which are not dead

Correction to the Correction:

meaning of life = the condition of things which are not dead

Life is a condition of a being. Death is also a condition of a being.
The being will retain its properties - just in a different condition.

 

[Mentat]

Originally posted by Messiah
Correction to the Correction:

meaning of life = the condition of things which are not dead

Life is a condition of a being. Death is also a condition of a being.
The being will retain its properties - just in a different condition.

Correction to the correction of the correction :

The meaning of life cannot be the condition of things which are not dead. That is the defintion of "life" itself.

It's meaning is one of properties of it.

 

[chosenone]

I know.the meaning of life is to give up ever thinking you'll get a answer,and find something else to do with your time.

 

[M. Gaspar]

The meaning of life is the meaning you GIVE it!

 

[chosenone]

CAN YOU GIVE IT A GOOD ONE?

 

[M. Gaspar]

chosenone...

The meaning of life is the meaning I give it via my ACTIONS.

If my life is about "being of service" -- and I take actions consistent with that -- then "being of service" is part of the meaning of MY life.

If my life is about philosphical and scientific inquirey -- and I take actions consistent with that -- then the meaning of my life INCLUDES intellectual inquiry.

If my life is about "family" ... or "academic study" ...or "stealing cars" ...or "making music" ...then the meaning of my life includes these things.

What is the meaning of YOUR life?

HINT: I draw your attention to my "signature"...

 

[M. Gaspar]

...and the meaning of life for the Universe might be "simply" to have ANOTHER Experience ...and, maybe, to evolve .