What is the meaning of the superscript "+"?

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The discussion revolves around the meaning of the superscript "+" in mathematical notation, specifically in the context of real numbers. Participants explore various interpretations and usages of this notation, including its implications in different mathematical contexts such as set theory and group theory.

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  • Some participants suggest that ##\mathbb{R}^+## typically denotes the set of positive real numbers, while others argue it can also represent non-negative real numbers.
  • One participant mentions that in their country, ##\mathbb{R}^+## is defined as the set of non-negative reals, while ##\mathbb{R}^+_0## is used for strictly positive reals.
  • Another participant expresses confusion over the notation, stating that it seems counterintuitive to use "+" to indicate inclusion of zero while using it to exclude it in another context.
  • Some participants provide alternative notations and definitions, such as ##\mathbb{R}_{>0}## for strictly positive reals and ##\mathbb{R}_{\geq 0}## for non-negative reals.
  • There is a reference to Wikipedia, where one participant notes that both notations are mentioned, but another participant points out that the specific notation ##\mathbb{R}^+_0## is not found on the cited page.
  • Participants express differing views on which notation makes more sense, with some preferring the opposite definitions of the superscript "+" and the subscript "0".

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the meaning of the superscript "+". Multiple competing interpretations remain, with some participants advocating for different definitions based on regional conventions.

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There are limitations in the discussion regarding the definitions of the notations, as participants rely on personal or regional standards without a unified reference. The discussion also highlights the potential for confusion arising from different notational conventions.

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In the problem statement for problem (10b) in the thread
the following notation is used:
What is the meaning of the superscript "+"?
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Buzz Bloom said:
In the problem statement for problem (10b) in the thread
the following notation is used:
What is the meaning of the superscript "+"?View attachment 234346
I haven't found the situation where it has been used, but very likely it means ##\mathbb{R}^+=\{\,r\in \mathbb{R}\,|\,r>0\,\}##. In group theory it could also mean the additive group of the real numbers. However, I would rather write the additive group as ##(\mathbb{R},+)##.
 
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##\mathbb{R}^+ := \{r \in \mathbb{R}\mid r \geq 0\}##

This is standard notation in my country.

In case you would also encounter the following notation, you'll know what it means: ##\mathbb{R}^+_0 := \{r \in \mathbb{R}\mid r > 0\}##
 
Math_QED said:
##\mathbb{R}^+ := \{r \in \mathbb{R}\mid r \geq 0\}##

This is standard notation in my country.

In case you would also encounter the following notation, you'll know what it means: ##\mathbb{R}^+_0 := \{r \in \mathbb{R}\mid r > 0\}##
I know it the other way around, which I think makes more sense: ##\mathbb{R}^+## for strictly positive reals and ##\mathbb{R}_0^+## if zero is included. Your notation is strange: you positively (include) write + but negatively (exclude) 0. Very strange. I have never seen this before.

Other notations are: ##\mathbb{R}^+=\mathbb{R}_{>0}\; , \;\mathbb{R}^+_0=\mathbb{R}_{\geq 0}\; , \;\mathbb{R}^\times = \mathbb{R}-\{\,0\,\}##.
 
fresh_42 said:
I know it the other way around, which I think makes more sense: ##\mathbb{R}^+## for strictly positive reals and ##\mathbb{R}_0^+## if zero is included. Your notation is strange: you positively (include) write + but negatively (exclude) 0. Very strange. I have never seen this before.

Other notations are: ##\mathbb{R}^+=\mathbb{R}_{>0}\; , \;\mathbb{R}^+_0=\mathbb{R}_{\geq 0}\; , \;\mathbb{R}^\times = \mathbb{R}-\{\,0\,\}##.

Interesting how things can vary depending on the country!
 
Math_QED said:
##\mathbb{R}^+ := \{r \in \mathbb{R}\mid r \geq 0\}##

This is standard notation in my country.

In case you would also encounter the following notation, you'll know what it means: ##\mathbb{R}^+_0 := \{r \in \mathbb{R}\mid r > 0\}##
It makes more sense the other way around as you have them.
IOW, this makes more sense:
##\mathbb{R}^+ := \{r \in \mathbb{R}\mid r \gt 0\}##
and ##\mathbb{R}^+_0 := \{r \in \mathbb{R}\mid r \ge 0\}##
I must admit that I've never encountered the latter notation.
 
Mark44 said:
It makes more sense the other way around as you have them.
IOW, this makes more sense:
##\mathbb{R}^+ := \{r \in \mathbb{R}\mid r \gt 0\}##
and ##\mathbb{R}^+_0 := \{r \in \mathbb{R}\mid r \ge 0\}##
I must admit that I've never encountered the latter notation.

Wikipedia says both notations are possible, but nevertheless it is worth mentioning what certain notation mean.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_real_numbers
 
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Hi @Math QED:

Thanks for the Wikipedia citation. I did make an effort to find an explanation in Wikipedia, but I did not use a search phrase that found anything useful.

Regards,
Buzz
 
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Mark44 said:
I don't see this notation -- ##\mathbb{R}^+_0## -- anywhere on the page you cited.

The page shows ##\mathbb{R}^+## for 0 included though. No need to discuss trivialities like this though.
 
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Math_QED said:
The page shows ##\mathbb{R}^+## for 0 included though. No need to discuss trivialities like this though.
My response was to what you wrote at the bottom of post #3:
Math_QED said:
In case you would also encounter the following notation, you'll know what it means: ##\mathbb{R}^+_0 := \{r \in \mathbb{R}\mid r > 0\}##
Trivial or not, it's not listed in the wiki article you cited.
 

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