What is the Method to Calculate Sin β in a Triangle?

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The discussion revolves around methods to calculate the sine of angle β in a triangle, specifically using trigonometric identities and the Pythagorean theorem. Participants explore various approaches and calculations related to the triangle's dimensions.

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  • One participant calculates tan β using the ratio of sides, leading to an angle β of approximately 0.59°, and subsequently finds sin β to be 0.0103, questioning if there are alternative methods.
  • Another participant corrects the angle calculation, noting that tan⁻¹(2/3) does not equal 0.59° and emphasizes the importance of using the correct angular measure (degrees or radians) for trigonometric calculations.
  • Some participants propose using the Pythagorean theorem to find the length of the hypotenuse in triangle ABD to derive sin β, leading to the expression sin β = 2/√13.
  • A later reply confirms the calculation of sin β as 2/√13 and suggests that this is correct, providing a numerical approximation for verification.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is disagreement regarding the initial calculation of angle β and its sine value. While some participants agree on the use of the Pythagorean theorem to find sin β, the initial angle calculation remains contested.

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Participants express uncertainty about the correct angular measure and the implications of using different calculators for trigonometric functions. The discussion includes various mathematical steps that may depend on specific assumptions or definitions.

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This discussion may be useful for students or individuals interested in trigonometry, particularly in understanding different methods for calculating sine in triangles and the importance of angle measures in trigonometric functions.

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How do you find the numerical value sin β for the triangle shown on below image?

I can only find

##\tan β = \frac{AB}{BD} = \frac{2x}{3x} = \frac{2}{3} = 0.666666667##

then

##β = \tan^{-1} 0.666666667 = 0.59°##

then

##\sin β = \sin 0.59° = 0.0103##

Is there another method to find the numerical value of sin β?

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basty said:
How do you find the numerical value sin β for the triangle shown on below image?

I can only find

##\tan β = \frac{AB}{BD} = \frac{2x}{3x} = \frac{2}{3} = 0.666666667##

then

##β = \tan^{-1} 0.666666667 = 0.59°##

then

##\sin β = \sin 0.59° = 0.0103##

Is there another method to find the numerical value of sin β?

triangle.png

First of all, tan-1(2/3) ≠ 0.59°

There are two common angular measures in use: degrees and radians. The calculators we use to compute the trig functions and their inverses need to be set on one measure or the other in order to perform the correct calculation.

The tangent of a 45° angle = 1, so the angle whose tangent is 2/3 will be closer to 45° than to 0°.

The Pythagorean Identity, sin2(θ) + cos2(θ) = 1, can be manipulated to give

tan2(θ) + 1 = sec2(θ) or
cot2(θ) + 1 = csc2(θ),

where
csc(θ) = 1 / sin(θ)
sec(θ) = 1 / cos(θ)
cot(θ) = 1 / tan(θ)
 
You can use the pythagorean theorem in triangle ABD to find y with respect to x and then find sin beta
 
Mastermind01 said:
You can use the pythagorean theorem in triangle ABD to find y with respect to x and then find sin beta

From the pythagorean formula, I get:

##y^2 = (2x)^2 + (3x)^2##
##y^2 = 4x^2 + 9x^2##
##y^2 = 13x^2##
##y = \sqrt{13x^2}##
##y = \sqrt{13}x##

##\sin β = \frac{2x}{\sqrt{13}x} = \frac{2}{\sqrt{13}} = \frac{2}{\sqrt{13}} × \frac{\sqrt{13}}{\sqrt{13}} = \frac{2\sqrt{13}}{13}##

Is that correct?
 
basty said:
From the pythagorean formula, I get:

##y^2 = (2x)^2 + (3x)^2##
##y^2 = 4x^2 + 9x^2##
##y^2 = 13x^2##
##y = \sqrt{13x^2}##
##y = \sqrt{13}x##

##\sin β = \frac{2x}{\sqrt{13}x} = \frac{2}{\sqrt{13}} = \frac{2}{\sqrt{13}} × \frac{\sqrt{13}}{\sqrt{13}} = \frac{2\sqrt{13}}{13}##

Is that correct?

That is correct.

You can even use a calculator to tally.

atan(2/3) = 33 degrees (approximately)

sin(33) = 0.546 = 2 / sqrt(13)
 

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