What Is the Method to Complete the Square in Algebra?

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The discussion revolves around the method of completing the square in algebra, specifically in the context of converting a polar equation into a Cartesian form. The original poster presents a curve defined by the equation r = 3sin(θ) and attempts to derive a Cartesian equation.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the transformation of the equation from polar to Cartesian coordinates and the steps involved in completing the square for the variable y. There are attempts to identify the necessary values to form a perfect square and questions about finding the center of the resulting circle.

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Some participants have provided guidance on how to complete the square and have clarified the general form of a circle. There is an ongoing exploration of different methods to represent the curve, including the use of tables for plotting values.

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There are references to the original poster's uncertainty about completing the square due to a lack of recent practice. Additionally, the discussion touches on the challenges of representing parametric curves with Cartesian equations.

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Homework Statement



I identify the curve by finding a Cartesian equation for the curve.

Homework Equations



r = 3sin(θ)

The Attempt at a Solution



r^2 = 3r(y/r)

x^2+y^2 = 3y

x^2-3y+y^2 = 0

Now I'm stuck, I don't remember how to complete the square as I haven't done it in ages.
 
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Notice that the only x in the equation is a single x2 term so that's already a square. We just need to turn y2-3y into a complete square now.

The binomial expansion for the following square value is

(y-a)^2 = y^2-2ay+a^2

So we want to choose the value of 'a' such that we have turned the right hand side into the y^2-3y expression.

So essentially since we want y^2-3y=y^2-2ay then comparing coefficients of y clearly we want -3=-2a, so a=3/2.

But we also need the a2 term in there in order to turn it back into a perfect square. If we add a2 to both sides of the equation then we keep everything balanced and we get

x^2+y^2-3y+(3/2)^2=(3/2)^2

Can you take it from here?
 
Mentallic said:
Notice that the only x in the equation is a single x2 term so that's already a square. We just need to turn y2-3y into a complete square now.

The binomial expansion for the following square value is

(y-a)^2 = y^2-2ay+a^2

So we want to choose the value of 'a' such that we have turned the right hand side into the y^2-3y expression.

So essentially since we want y^2-3y=y^2-2ay then comparing coefficients of y clearly we want -3=-2a, so a=3/2.

But we also need the a2 term in there in order to turn it back into a perfect square. If we add a2 to both sides of the equation then we keep everything balanced and we get

x^2+y^2-3y+(3/2)^2=(3/2)^2

Can you take it from here?

I see, so I have radius r = 3/2. How do I get the center?
 
Have you completed the square on y? The general form for the circle is

(x-a)^2+(y-b)^2=r^2

And the centre is located at (a,b). Note that x^2=(x-0)^2
 
Mentallic said:
Have you completed the square on y? The general form for the circle is

(x-a)^2+(y-b)^2=r^2

And the centre is located at (a,b). Note that x^2=(x-0)^2

That is interesting. My textbook has me making a table using radian angles and plugging into the equation to find values of r and plotting them on a graph.
 
shreddinglicks said:
That is interesting. My textbook has me making a table using radian angles and plugging into the equation to find values of r and plotting them on a graph.

Well the thing about parametric curves is that you can't always find a nice cartesian equation to represent them. In this case it's simply a circle and so doing what you did is best to find what the parametric curve actually is.
Also, it would be good practise to do what your textbook is expecting so that you can find the rough shape of curves that normally wouldn't be as nice.
 
To answer your basic question, "how do I complete the square",

you have -3y+ y^2. You should recall, or be able to calculate, that (y- a)^2= y^2- 2ay+ a^2. Comparing that with y^2- 3y, you see that your "2a" is 3. Since 2a= 3, a= 3/2 and a^2= 9/4. You need to add (and subtract so you won't actually change the value of the expression) 9/4: y^2- 3y= y^2- 3y+ 9/4- 9/4= (y- 3/2)^2- 9/4.
 

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