What Is the Minimum Velocity Required to Reach a Rising Hot Air Balloon?

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The problem involves a scenario where a passenger in a hot air balloon is rising at a constant speed, and a second person on the ground throws a camera upwards to reach the passenger. The goal is to determine the minimum velocity required for the camera to reach the passenger, who is at a specific height above the ground.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to equate the position equations of the balloon and the camera to find the minimum velocity. Some participants question the validity of the methods used, while others explore the relationship between velocity and displacement through calculus concepts.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes attempts to confirm the original poster's calculations and methods. There is an exploration of whether calculus is necessary for solving the problem, with participants sharing insights about derivatives and their relevance to the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem is part of an AP Physics B course, which is algebra-based, and there is a mention of the original poster's familiarity with calculus, raising questions about the applicability of calculus in this context.

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Homework Statement



A passenger is rising in a hot air balloon at a constant 2m/s. The passenger realizes she forgot her camera. A second person on the ground below the balloon throws the camera straight up when the balloon is 2.5m off the ground. What is the minimum velocity the camera can be thrown with in order to just reach the passenger?


Homework Equations


[tex]y_1(t)=2t+2.5[/tex]
[tex]y_2(t)=vt-\frac{1}{2}gt^2[/tex]


The Attempt at a Solution



Okay so I figured that at the minimum speed the camera will reach the passenger when its velocity is zero.

So figured out that its velocity is zero when [tex]t=\frac{v}{g}[/tex]

okay then I set the two position equations equal getting [tex]2t+2.5=vt-\frac{1}{2}gt^2[/tex]

So then my next step I wasn't sure was valid, but I substituted [tex]\frac{v}{g}[/tex] for t and then solved for v.

I got 9.28 m/s.

I don't know if this answer is correct or not.

Can someone please confirm my methods?
 
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Question: Is this problem for a course involving calculus?
 
no its for AP Physics B which is algebra based.

I know Calculus, well two semesters worth. How would I solve it using calc?
 
I just noticed that the derivative of your y2(t) equation effectively yields your t value, after a little majiggering.

Velocity is the derivative of displacement, therefore, when velocity is zero, your displacement graph will either be a peak or a trough. So when you take the derivative, you just set it equal to zero, and isolate t.

Which is what you did, actually, but I wasn't sure if you knew that's what you were doing, or if you were just using an equation (all the equations are derived from calculus, anyway).
 

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