What is the momentum of the pellet?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving the momentum of a pellet propelled by a force that decreases exponentially over time. The force is defined as F(t)=F0e(−t/τ), where τ is a time constant. Participants are tasked with determining the momentum after one time constant has elapsed, expressed in terms of F0, τ, and the exponential constant e.

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  • Participants express confusion regarding the integration of the force function and its implications for momentum. Some question their understanding of the exponential function and its integral, while others discuss the relationship between force, mass, and acceleration.

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The conversation includes attempts to clarify the integration process and the application of calculus rules, such as the chain rule and product rule. Some participants have offered insights into the derivative of the force function, while others are still grappling with the concepts involved.

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Participants note their lack of familiarity with integrating exponential functions and express uncertainty about the correct application of calculus principles in this context.

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Homework Statement


A burst of compressed air pushes a pellet out of a blowpipe. The force exerted by the air on the pellet is given by F(t)=F0e(−t/τ), where τ is called a time constant because it has units of time.
What is the momentum of the pellet after an interval equal to one time constant has elapsed?
Express your answer in terms of the variables F0, τ, and exponential constant e.

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i honestly am completely lost on this question, i assumed it would just be F0e(−t) but that's not correct. help?
 
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emily081715 said:

Homework Statement


A burst of compressed air pushes a pellet out of a blowpipe. The force exerted by the air on the pellet is given by F(t)=F0e(−t/τ), where τ is called a time constant because it has units of time.
What is the momentum of the pellet after an interval equal to one time constant has elapsed?
Express your answer in terms of the variables F0, τ, and exponential constant e.

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The Attempt at a Solution


i honestly am completely lost on this question, i assumed it would just be F0e(−t) but that's not correct. help?

Hey Emily! :oldsmile:

We have momentum p=mv.
Furrhermore we have force F=ma.
And speed v is the integral of acceleration a with respect to time.
Suppose we integrate the expression. What will we get?
 
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HHey Emily! :oldsmile:

We have momentum p=mv.
Furrhermore we have force F=ma.
And speed v is the integral of acceleration a with respect to time.
Suppose we integrate the expression. What will we get?
I'm completely lost how to integrate it though,F(t)=F0e(−t/τ) is not like a function I'm use to working with
 
emily081715 said:
I'm completely lost how to integrate it though,F(t)=F0e(−t/τ) is not like a function I'm use to working with

The exponential function is an odd one. Its integral looks very similar to its derivative.
What would the derivative be?

Oh, and for the record:
$$\int Fdt=\int madt=mv=p$$
 
I like Serena said:
The exponential function is an odd one. Its integral looks very similar to its derivative.
What would the derivative be?
wouldn't the derivative be e(−t/τ) +F0e(−t/τ) ?
 
emily081715 said:
wouldn't the derivative be e(−t/τ) +F0e(−t/τ) ?

How so?

Note that the derivative of ##e^x## is ##e^x##. That leaves applying the chain rule. How familiar are you with the chain rule?
 
I like Serena said:
How so?

Note that the derivative of ##e^x## is ##e^x##. That leaves applying the chain rule. How familiar are you with the chain rule?
i was assuming there was also product rule too since fo is a constant
 
emily081715 said:
i was assuming there was also product rule too since fo is a constant

Nope. No product rule for constants.
Or rather, the derivative of a constant is zero, causing the corresponding term to be zero as well.
 
The derivative is:
$$F'(t) = F_0 \cdot -\frac 1\tau e^{-t/\tau}$$
This helps to find the integral, which is:
$$p(\tau) = \int_0^\tau F\,dt = F_0 \cdot -\tau e^{-t/\tau}\Big|_0^\tau$$
 
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