What is the most respectable career?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of what constitutes the most respectable career, with participants sharing their opinions on various professions and the criteria that define respectability. The scope includes personal views on different jobs, societal perceptions, and the qualities that make a profession admirable.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that being a soldier is a highly respectable profession due to the willingness to sacrifice for others.
  • Others argue that engineering is respectable, though its meaning can be vague to the general public.
  • A participant humorously suggests that a "Global Emperor" could be seen as respectable, though this is framed in a light-hearted manner.
  • A janitor is mentioned as a respectable job, but one that may not be highly respected by society.
  • Musicians are described as having a cool and enjoyable career, with personal anecdotes highlighting the appeal of performing.
  • Firefighters are frequently cited as both respectable and respected, with some participants discussing the heroic status associated with the profession.
  • Concerns are raised about the reasons behind the respect for firefighters, with some questioning the perception that they do not actively engage in dangerous situations.
  • Medical professionals, particularly those in emergency roles, are noted for their demanding work and the emotional toll it can take.
  • Participants reflect on the changing perceptions of respectability in various professions, including police and clergy, due to recent scandals.
  • Some scientists and engineers are mentioned as being respected, particularly those who contribute significantly to society.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a variety of opinions on what makes a career respectable, with no clear consensus on a single profession being the most respectable. Multiple competing views remain regarding the criteria for respectability and the professions that embody those qualities.

Contextual Notes

Participants express differing definitions of "respectable" versus "respected," indicating a potential misunderstanding of terms. The discussion also highlights the subjective nature of respectability and the influence of personal experiences on perceptions of various careers.

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In the entire world, what type of profession is most respectable? I know this is based on your opinions. I just want to hear them.
 
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The first thing that pops into my head is a solider. Of course this is based on my definition of respectable. One that is willing to sacrifice their life for others is respectable in my book.
 
Shshsh! Don't let Mr. Incredible Hear You Say This!

A "solider"? You mean Elastigirl isn't respectable?!
 
Engineering is way up there, mostly because the term itself means literally nothing to most people. "you're an engineer? cool, so you, like, build rocket sleds?" Sure baby, whatever you want. :cool:
 
Global Emperor. Imagine the babes you could get :rolleyes:
 
Moridin said:
Global Emperor. Imagine the slaves you could get :rolleyes:

Fixed :wink:
 
ShawnD said:
Engineering is way up there, mostly because the term itself means literally nothing to most people. "you're an engineer? cool, so you, like, build rocket sleds?" Sure baby, whatever you want. :cool:


rofl :smile:
 
I'm wondering if the OP is confusing respectable with respected?

A janitor is a respectable job, but it's not highly respected.
 
Musician is 'way cool. No matter what I did in my week-day jobs, I always enjoyed the weekend gigs in local bars and taverns. You may not think that playing blues and rock in bars is respectable, but when you're getting well-paid, pretty young ladies flirt and buy you drinks, and one of your biggest fans is the national enforcer for a major motorcycle club (you've heard of them), that's a comfort zone that is hard to beat. Sure, there's the little obstacles of talent and soul if you're lacking, but you asked.

For respectable, stay away from investment councilor, clergyman, lawyer, used-car (or even new-car) salesman, loan officer, telemarketer, etc. If you're fantastically wealthy, a career as a philanthropist is a respectable endeavor.:rolleyes:
 
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Well, lately, I would say that the most respectable and respected job far and away is firefighter.

Usually it is individuals who are lauded for their actions. In the case of firefighters, the title "hero" virtually comes with the hat.
 
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DaveC426913 said:
Well, lately, I would say that the most respectable and respected job far and away is firefighter.

The mere role has been elevated to a status near that of hero.
Yes. That is a physically demanding profession that involves a degree of personal risk that most of us would not want to accept in some situations. There was a big fire in an abandoned factory in Worcester MA a number of years ago. I know a member of the response team that is still not doing well (PTSD), and his dog (a sweet pit-bull/boxer cross) and his friends are all that seem to keep him going day-to-day.
 
  • #12
I've always wondered why firefighters were so respected. For the most part they sit around doing nothing. If they're respected because most people wouldn't go into a burning building to save someone then I'm disappointed.
 
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Kurdt said:
I've always wondered why firefighters were so respected. For the most part they sit around doing nothing. If they're respected because most people wouldn't go into a burning building to save someone then I'm disappointed.

Disappointed that others won't risk their lives to save someone else or disappointed that they are respected for it?
 
  • #14
stewartcs said:
Disappointed that others won't risk their lives to save someone else or disappointed that they are respected for it?
A lot of firefighters are drawn to the danger and the fire by their personalities, if you listen to reasons why they become firefighters, it's not all that savory in a lot of cases. Although I can't find fault with someone that uses such quirks for good.
 
  • #15
stewartcs said:
Disappointed that others won't risk their lives to save someone else or disappointed that they are respected for it?

Disappointed that others would seemingly find watching people suffer while they did nothing the natural choice.
 
  • #16
Kurdt said:
Disappointed that others would seemingly find watching people suffer while they did nothing the natural choice.
I think some things like fire tend to paralyze people with fear. It's one of the first things you are taught to fear as a child.
 
  • #17
I know a lot of firefighters. Here in Maine, the population density is not high enough to support large fire departments, but great numbers of people may be required to save lives and property on very short notice in the event of a fire, especially with the great number of old wood-frame houses with wood stoves and old chimneys. In our situation, most firefighters are volunteers, and every loss of a firefighter is deeply felt. They are friends, family, or acquaintances. When you live in a town of less than a few thousand people (most here are MUCH smaller), there is no way to lose a firefighter that does not affect the whole town.
 
  • #18
I couldn't name just one.

I put medical people right up there...esp people who work in the ER. Tsu could tell you stories for hours that would have many here in tears in minutes. It takes a very special person to do that sort of work and really care about the patients, and not commit suicide.
 
  • #19
Evo said:
I think some things like fire tend to paralyze people with fear. It's one of the first things you are taught to fear as a child.
That's interesting because my parents never taught me to fear anything. I learned to manage fire at an early age, and I'd split wood with an axe by the time I was 6. My grandparents cooked with a wood fired stove into the mid-60's. My dad and I would burn scrap wood, twigs and branches and some household waster, so I learned to make and control fire.

We were taught to be cautious or careful, but I was never taught to fear anything.
 
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Astronuc said:
That's interesting because my parents never taught me to fear anything. I learned to manage fire at an early age, and I'd split wood with an axe by the time I was 6. My grandparents cooked with a wood fired stove into the mid-60's. My dad and I would burn scrap wood, twigs and branches and some household waster, so I learned to make and control fire.

We were taught to be cautious or careful, but I never taught to fear anything.
Like you, I was never taught to fear anything, but to respect things that could get out of hand. As a kid, I worked around my uncle's Herefords, and they were mostly pretty chummy (although huge!) and I split firewood, collected tinder and twigs, and learned how to control open fires and contained (stove) fires. I also learned how to kill, and process livestock and how to butcher it after. I don't know how many people younger than 50 or so have the skills that could keep them alive with no electricity and no gasoline - the people with their fingers on these commodities have the power to destroy much of our country.
 
  • #21
Ivan Seeking said:
I couldn't name just one.

I put medical people right up there...esp people who work in the ER. Tsu could tell you stories for hours that would have many here in tears in minutes. It takes a very special person to do that sort of work and really care about the patients, and not commit suicide.
I found myself in a quandry. I thought about police, clergy, judiciary, medicine, teacher, . . . , but it seems with all the scandals over the past few decades, what was once considered respected [I think the OP meant 'respected' rather than 'respectable' is no longer so.

Firefighters are in general respected. They do put themselves on the line, especially when it comes to wildfires! In the US, firefighters also support paramedics and often respond to automobile accidents, and sometimes search and rescue. One may not be grateful for emergency responders until one needs them.

Certainly ER doctors and nurses are respected. I agree with Ivan on that for reasons stated.

Some scientists and engineers are respected, particularly those who invent something very useful or beneficial to society.
 
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i respect soldiers
 
  • #23
Freelance mathematician/physicist/philosopher, hands down.
 
  • #24
AFG34 said:
i respect soldiers

This may sound funny but, may I ask why?
 
  • #25
Kurdt said:
This may sound funny but, may I ask why?
Same thing I say.
 
  • #26
physicscrap said:
In the entire world, what type of profession is most respectable? I know this is based on your opinions. I just want to hear them.

The ruler of the country like a prime minister in Britian or president in America.
 
  • #27
stewartcs said:
Disappointed that others won't risk their lives to save someone else or disappointed that they are respected for it?

It's not that people cannot risk their lives, it is that they choose not to risk their lives and instead choose to do something productive outside of constantly jumping through burning debris to rescue Pam Anderson. The people who pick up trash have chosen a job that not even the bravest of firefighters would choose, so how tough are they?

To me, the most respectable jobs in the world are those which get no respect, because no one wants to do them and everyone knows they have to be done, like lawyers and janitors and worms (oil rig).
 
  • #28
I know this thread is based on the new study on the most respected professions, but I'll play.

1. Firefighters and soldiers becase regardless of their motivations, they risk their lives to help others. When everyone else is running away from danger they run towards it, and it saves lives.

2. Doctors nurses, healers - They save many lives and change many more for the better. And they keep doing it, even after that 9 year old car crash victim or cancer patient doesn't make it.

3. Teachers- Molding minds, cultivating tomorrow's physicists and inventors- doesn't everyone have a teacher they'll never forget? And they put up with 30 crazy kids every day year after year for practically minimum wage at times. A round of applause for doing something that has to be done because of it's own virtue.

Many others that I'll have to leave to others to list
 
  • #29
Zantra said:
3. Teachers- Molding minds, cultivating tomorrow's physicists and inventors- doesn't everyone have a teacher they'll never forget? And they put up with 30 crazy kids every day year after year for practically minimum wage at times. A round of applause for doing something that has to be done because of it's own virtue.

Teacher wages according to Salary.com:
10th percentile: $30,565
25th percentile: $40,144
median: ~$50,000
75th percentile: $59,512
90th percentile: $67,567

I entered the field of chemistry about a year and a half ago and my pay stayed in the range of maybe $32,000 yearly for 3 different short-term contract jobs, all of which had no benefits or pension. One of my friends became a teacher at the beginning of this school year, with a starting pay of http://www.taxpayer.com/main/news.php?news_id=1973 , as well as dental care, vision care, 1 month paid vacation, and a defined benefit pension. Out of everyone I know, she is by far the wealthiest in my age bracket.
 
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I vote for criminal against humanity (preferentially with a large number of genocide victims) :-p

It's sooo ecological !
 

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