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In quantum mechanics the name is Uncertainty principle. But outside of QM, what is the name for those inequalities?
The discussion revolves around the naming and interpretation of the Heisenberg uncertainty principle, particularly in the context of quantum mechanics and its implications outside of that framework. Participants explore various related concepts and inequalities, including the principle of complementarity and the Cauchy-Schwarz inequality.
Participants do not reach a consensus on the naming of the inequalities outside of quantum mechanics, with multiple competing views presented regarding the relevance and interpretation of various concepts such as the principle of complementarity, Cauchy-Schwarz inequality, and Nyquist theorem.
There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions made about the applicability of certain inequalities outside of quantum mechanics, and the definitions of terms used may vary among participants.
Niels Bohr wrote often about complementary or conjugate variables. While within QM perhaps you are thinking of his theory of complementarity? From the linked article:kent davidge said:Summary:: besides the one in the title
In quantum mechanics the name is Uncertainty principle. But outside of QM, what is the name for those inequalities?
In physics, complementarity is both a theoretical and an experimental result of quantum mechanics, also referred to as principle of complementarity. Formulated by Niels Bohr, a leading founder of quantum mechanics, the complementarity principle holds that objects have certain pairs of complementary properties which cannot all be observed or measured simultaneously.
Bohr has brought to my attention [that] the uncertainty in our observation does not arise exclusively from the occurrence of discontinuities, but is tied directly to the demand that we ascribe equal validity to the quite different experiments which show up in the [particulate] theory on one hand, and in the wave theory on the other hand.
I don't think that's what he means!Vanadium 50 said:Do you perhaps mean the Cauchy-Schwartz inequality?
martinbn said:I don't think that's what he means!
Why is this your guess?A. Neumaier said:Perhaps you were looking for the Nyquist theorem?
This is as classical as classical physics can be. I'm not aware of any uncertainty in the sampling processes, although information is lost (by definition) and that can create uncertainty when trying to go backwards (reconstruction).A. Neumaier said:Perhaps you were looking for the Nyquist theorem?
It's essentially the same inequality.martinbn said:Why is this your guess?
How!A. Neumaier said:It's essentially the same inequality.
It has no meaning outside QM. What were you trying to ask?kent davidge said:Summary:: besides the one in the title
In quantum mechanics the name is Uncertainty principle. But outside of QM, what is the name for those inequalities?
principle of complementaritykent davidge said:Summary:: besides the one in the title
In quantum mechanics the name is Uncertainty principle. But outside of QM, what is the name for those inequalities?