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The discussion revolves around frustrations with current documentary programming, particularly criticizing the History Channel's focus on sensational topics like time travel conspiracies instead of real historical content. Participants express disappointment over National Geographic's sale to Fox, fearing a decline in quality programming. The conversation shifts to lighter topics, including humorous anecdotes about everyday life, such as a malfunctioning kitchen fan discovered to be blocked by installation instructions. There are also discussions about the challenges of understanding various dialects in Belgium, the complexities of language, and personal experiences with weather and housing in California. Members share their thoughts on food, including a peculiar dish of zucchini pancakes served with strawberry yogurt, and delve into mathematical concepts related to sandwich cutting and the properties of numbers. The thread captures a blend of serious commentary and lighthearted banter, reflecting a diverse range of interests and perspectives among participants.
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After the new season of Better Call Saul opened with two lukewarm episodes, tonight it suddenly surged to full boil. I was so worried the writers had lost their mojo but tonight everything became intensely interesting.
 
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Wow, what a sense of entitlement! This woman walks into this small-business, self-serve cafe where I was having lunch, during a busy time, puts her things on a table (and one in the center, not one in a corner) , picks up some 100+ napkins, starts wiping all sorts of food containers she brought with her in her backpack clean with the napkins, taking up some 20 minutes during busy lunch time. Then she just walks out, not even thanking the owner nor any of the workers. At least she threw out the napkins.
 
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WWGD said:
Wow, what a sense of entitlement! This woman walks into this small-business, self-serve cafe where I was having lunch, during a busy time, puts her things on a table (and one in the center, not one in a corner) , picks up some 100+ napkins, starts wiping all sorts of food containers she brought with her in her backpack clean with the napkins, taking up some 20 minutes during busy lunch time. Then she just walks out, not even thanking the owner nor any of the workers. At least she threw out the napkins.
Odd. Did she seem homeless? If not, then she might be someone who is teetering on the brink of homelessness. The food containers sound like preparation for some kind of survival mode. The "entitled" attitude sounds like a kind of denial of a coming change downward in social status.
 
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zoobyshoe said:
Odd. Did she seem homeless? If not, then she might be someone who is teetering on the brink of homelessness. The food containers sound like preparation for some kind of survival mode. The "entitled" attitude sounds like a kind of denial of a coming change downward in social status.
Yes, I had not though of that, but it does not seem too likely since she was carrying a container from a blender with EDIT: some blender-shake of fruits, hard-boiled eggs and fruits, so she needs a power supply, a way to keep eggs fresh, e.g., a refrigerator , a way of boiling the eggs --stove -- and she did not carry the usual collection of bags many homeless often carry. She had a bunch of tupperware containers and her clothes seemed OK, albeit casual : sweats, sneakers and t-shirt, and she did not smell. I would assume someone who is risking homelessness would have more of a meek attitude( meaning, e.g. saying thanks and doing her thing less conspicuously in a corner), towards the cafe people so that she can ask for further favors, although maybe she is not "all-there" psychologically to do so. Still, I have the impression it is easier for a woman to get away with this than for a man (though surely a woman is more likely to be attacked and robbed, being physically weaker on average). But, still, you may be right, though , from what I wrote at the beginning, she may not be homeless yet..
 
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WWGD said:
Yes, I had not though of that, but it does not seem too likely since she was carrying a container from a blender with fruit juice, hard-boiled eggs and fruits, so she needs a power supply, a way to keep eggs fresh, e.g., a refrigerator , a way of boiling the eggs --stove -- and she did not carry the usual collection of bags many homeless often carry. She had a bunch of tupperware containers and her clothes seemed OK, albeit casual : sweats, sneakers and t-shirt, and she did not smell. I would assume someone who is risking homelessness would have more of a meek attitude( meaning, e.g. saying thanks and doing her thing less conspicuously in a corner), towards the cafe people so that she can ask for further favors, although maybe she is not "all-there" psychologically to do so. Still, I have the impression it is easier for a woman to get away with this than for a man (though surely a woman is more likely to be attacked and robbed, being physically weaker on average). But, still, you may be right, though , from what I wrote at the beginning, she may not be homeless yet..
Possibly extravagant speculation here, but the scenario that comes to mind is that of a woman who is walking out on a guy on whom she is financially dependent. He "wronged" her terribly somehow, and she has to break it off with him for her ego's sake, but she has nowhere to go. (Alternately, she may have "wronged" him, and she's being kicked out for that.) Either way, she's going back to the house or apartment when he's at work, or, some friend is letting her use the kitchen and bathroom, possibly even the couch, but it's a begrudging, short term thing.

I agree that it seems logical that someone on the edge should be as nice and grateful as possible to anyone they impose on, but I have actually seen people who adopt the opposite stance. There's a certain logic to that: admitting helplessness can attract people who want to abuse and exploit your vulnerability. A strong sense of entitlement becomes their default prophylactic, both as an ego defense mechanism and a defense against being taken advantage of. It's ultimately not a good strategy, but people in bad situations often can't think very rationally.
 
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zoobyshoe said:
Possibly extravagant speculation here, but the scenario that comes to mind is that of a woman who is walking out on a guy on whom she is financially dependent. He "wronged" her terribly somehow, and she has to break it off with him for her ego's sake, but she has nowhere to go. (Alternately, she may have "wronged" him, and she's being kicked out for that.) Either way, she's going back to the house or apartment when he's at work, or, some friend is letting her use the kitchen and bathroom, possibly even the couch, but it's a begrudging, short term thing.

I agree that it seems logical that someone on the edge should be as nice and grateful as possible to anyone they impose on, but I have actually seen people who adopt the opposite stance. There's a certain logic to that: admitting helplessness can attract people who want to abuse and exploit your vulnerability. A strong sense of entitlement becomes their default prophylactic, both as an ego defense mechanism and a defense against being taken advantage of. It's ultimately not a good strategy, but people in bad situations often can't think very rationally.
Wonder what you make of this one ( no kidding). A generic van, i.e., plain , without any signs or taxi plates , stops in the street at around 11:15 a.m. on a Sunday, let's someone out and then someone gets in it, just by sliding the door, without any overt communication with the driver. The van drives along ? Just in case, I neither drink nor do drugs, so I was not intoxicated when I saw this.
 
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WWGD said:
Wonder what you make of this one ( no kidding). A generic van, i.e., plain , without any signs or taxi plates , stops in the street at around 11:15 a.m. on a Sunday, let's someone out and then someone gets in it, just by sliding the door, without any overt communication with the driver. The van drives along ? Just in case, I neither drink nor do drugs, so I was not intoxicated when I saw this.
Was the person who got in standing there waiting for the van to arrive?
 
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zoobyshoe said:
Was the person who got in standing there waiting for the van to arrive?
seemed like it, though not 100% sure. Maybe a Craigslist-type, Uber/Lyft-type deal?
 
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WWGD said:
seemed like it, though not 100% sure. Maybe a Craigslist-type, Uber/Lyft-type deal?
What did the person who got out do?
 
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zoobyshoe said:
What did the person who got out do?
Don't remember too well, I just think he just walked out to the sidewalk and seemingly just went about his day.
 
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WWGD said:
Don't remember too well, I just think he just walked out to the sidewalk and seemingly just went about his day.
Was it a black van with a red stripe on it, driven by a black guy with plenty of gold around his neck?
 
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It's funny because I've never used uber myself, but I have seen a lot of people get picked up by uber drivers when I'm sitting at outdoor coffee shop patios. There is always an introductory conversation.

Therefore, the most interesting scenario that occurs to me is that this was a change of shift in a surveillance operation. Some organization, most likely the police, is keeping an eye on some business or place in the neighborhood. However, it could be private investigators or insurance investigators. Alternately, it could be organized crime.
 
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I think I found the key to understanding particle physics. Unfortunately it's not the key for ME understanding it.
The secret is to start early!
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'Been playing the video game Prey over the last day or two (the 2017 title, not to be confused with the 2006 one by the same name). I'm maybe about half way through.

So far so good.
 
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Finally found out the bathroom was downstairs: people walked down the stairs with a pained face and walk back up with an expression of relief.
 
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zoobyshoe said:
It's funny because I've never used uber myself, but I have seen a lot of people get picked up by uber drivers when I'm sitting at outdoor coffee shop patios. There is always an introductory conversation.

Therefore, the most interesting scenario that occurs to me is that this was a change of shift in a surveillance operation. Some organization, most likely the police, is keeping an eye on some business or place in the neighborhood. However, it could be private investigators or insurance investigators. Alternately, it could be organized crime.
Ouch, re the last one. Will pretend to not notice just in case.
 
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WWGD said:
Ouch, re the last one. Will pretend to not notice just in case.
The surveillance scenario is offered as the most interesting one I could think of that is also plausible.

It could be something else, like there happens to be a guy with a van who has enough free time to drive a couple relatives to and from work, and they happen to work at the same place but on successive shifts. They didn't say anything to the driver because the whole pick-up/drop-off has become too routine.

It could also be that it was an uber driver but there was no conversation between the driver and the guy who got in because the guy who got in was deaf. Presumably, he would have texted that information ahead when he contracted for the ride. The guy who got out would have said thanks and goodbye before he opened the door.

In any event, I agree there was something odd about the scene you describe and I, too, would have wondered what was going on.
 
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Interesting comment overheard at Starbucks: "The law of 72, that to calculate the doubling time with rate r, you divide 72 by r, was invented by the greatest mathematician of all, Albert Einstein"
 
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WWGD said:
Interesting comment overheard at Starbucks: "The law of 72, that to calculate the doubling time with rate r, you divide 72 by r, was invented by the greatest mathematician of all, Albert Einstein"
You posted that five times in five minutes, so at a rate of r=1/minute, implying a doubling time of 72 minutes by this law. Seems solid to me.

Edit: WWGD has deleted four of the five duplicate posts, leaving the above orphaned punchline. I'm not going to be appreciated in my own lifetime, am I...?
 
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WWGD said:
Interesting comment overheard at Starbucks: "The law of 72, that to calculate the doubling time with rate r, you divide 72 by r, was invented by the greatest mathematician of all, Albert Einstein"
Apparently its a very common meme to attribute this tool to Einstein. For example:

http://www.yourfriend4life.com/accumulate-wealth-with-the-rule-of-72/

But its veracity is "undetermined" :

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/einstein/interest.asp

No one seriously involved in physics or math, including Einstein himself, would support the "greatest mathematician of all" part of it.
 
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zoobyshoe said:
Apparently its a very common meme to attribute this tool to Einstein. For example:

http://www.yourfriend4life.com/accumulate-wealth-with-the-rule-of-72/

But its veracity is "undetermined" :

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/einstein/interest.asp

No one seriously involved in physics or math, including Einstein himself, would support the "greatest mathematician of all" part of it.

Yes, and, besides, I would call it more of a discovery and not an invention. It seems when someone does amazing work in one area they have all sorts of
wise sayings in other areas attributed to them too. Just like you have, e.g., ballplayers recommending toothpaste, retirement packages, as if knowing how to hit a ball somehow makes them a better dentist, financial advisor, etc. I don't get it.
 
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WWGD said:
It seems when someone does amazing work in one area they have all sorts of wise sayings in other areas attributed to them too. Just like you have, e.g., ballplayers recommending toothpaste, retirement packages, as if knowing how to hit a ball somehow makes them a better dentist, financial advisor, etc. I don't get it.
Yes, but there is, additionally, a distinct difference between hiring a willing baseball player to endorse toothpaste, and fictitiously attributing an idea to some famous person without their knowledge or consent.

The snopes author was unable to trace this back to anything Einstein ever said or wrote. In the case of the baseball player you have a straightforward instance of a perfectly legal kind of 'prostitution,' so to speak; a paid endorsement. The Einstein thing, if the quote and the formula did not come from him, is something hovering on the edge of fraud: people are attributing this idea to Einstein with the intention of getting people to buy their investment instruction manuals.

Some righteous consumer advocate might be able to legally require them to prove the formula and quote originated with Einstein, and, if they can't, completely stop making the claim least they be sued for fraud.
 
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zoobyshoe said:
Yes, but there is, additionally, a distinct difference between hiring a willing baseball player to endorse toothpaste, and fictitiously attributing an idea to some famous person without their knowledge or consent.

The snopes author was unable to trace this back to anything Einstein ever said or wrote. In the case of the baseball player you have a straightforward instance of a perfectly legal kind of 'prostitution,' so to speak; a paid endorsement. The Einstein thing, if the quote and the formula did not come from him, is something hovering on the edge of fraud: people are attributing this idea to Einstein with the intention of getting people to buy their investment instruction manuals.

Some righteous consumer advocate might be able to legally require them to prove the formula and quote originated with Einstein, and, if they can't, completely stop making the claim least they be sued for fraud.
But , who would sue for fraud, Einstein's family fund representative?
 
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WWGD said:
But , who would sue for fraud, Einstein's family fund representative?
The fraud (if such it is) is being committed against the audience of the advert who may erroneously believe that Einstein invented/endorsed/whatever compound interest. So anybody seeing and believing the advert could have standing to sue, I think. I only play a lawyer on the internet, though, so who knows.

Reminds me of Pepsi's Harrier advert - http://www.snopes.com/business/deals/pepsijet.asp.
 
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Ibix said:
The fraud (if such it is) is being committed against the audience of the advert who may erroneously believe that Einstein invented/endorsed/whatever compound interest. So anybody seeing and believing the advert could have standing to sue, I think. I only play a lawyer on the internet, though, so who knows.
I am not sure you even have to have bought the product to sue. All that is necessary is to prove the company knows the claim is untrue, which you would do by warning them to substantiate the claim or stop making it. If they neither substantiate it nor stop making it, then I think anyone could sue in the capacity of a "consumer advocate." I doubt you personally could ask for their ill-gotten gains, but you could force them to repay the people they did defraud and possibly to pay your legal fees.
Reminds me of Pepsi's Harrier advert - http://www.snopes.com/business/deals/pepsijet.asp.
It says Pepsi got off by claiming the offer of a harrier was so outrageous no reasonable person could have believed it. I don't think the Einstein thing could use that defense. It's much more plausible to assert Einstein both developed this formula and that he said something positive about compound interest.
 
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In other news, it's been raining hard here off and on all day and I noticed something I've seen before but can't explain, which is that pigeons seem too stupid to perch out of the rain. They sit there like morons on the utility wires getting drenched. I don't understand why they don't go under a bridge somewhere.
 
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Is it true love if her heart's made of spinach?
 
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zoobyshoe said:
Is it true love if her heart's made of spinach?
Yep.

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Wow..found more! My poor kid...

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Some trees produce stuff that is tasty and good for you. But, in my whole life, I've never quite noticed this before:

Oranges grow in a grove.

Apples grow in an orchard.

Bananas grow on a plantation.
 
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And, I just found out coincidentally from a novel I'm reading, blueberries are grown on a blueberry farm. Suggesting, strangely, that they are a sort of livestock.
 
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I pushed fresh date in my frozen dinners to the limit. I put them in my backpack last Saturday and never had a chance to ( or, more accurately, put off) eat them until today. No bad results so far, tho a careless thing to do.
 
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WWGD said:
I pushed fresh date in my frozen dinners to the limit. I put them in my backpack last Saturday and never had a chance to ( or, more accurately, put off) eat them until today. No bad results so far, tho a careless thing to do.
I once had milk four weeks over the date and it was still o.k. However, that frightened me a lot more than if it were sour. What kind of milk is this? I remember the days when my grandma let milk become sour to thicken it to soured milk. Nowadays milk turns red instead. Weird.
 
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fresh_42 said:
I once had milk four weeks over the date and it was still o.k. However, that frightened me a lot more than if it were sour. What kind of milk is this? I remember the days when my grandma let milk become sour to thicken it to soured milk. Nowadays milk turns red instead. Weird.
And the only person that comments about my spoiled food is the one called fresh_42 :) ? Maybe it is the hormones they now give cows, though maybe they do not do so in Germany, maybe they have different laws?
 
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Yes, I think hormones are forbidden. One reason why people don't like TTIP here. But milk is processed food anyway, and I suppose it doesn't contain the natural bacteria anymore. Not sure whether I want to know what's in it instead.
 
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fresh_42 said:
Yes, I think hormones are forbidden. One reason why people don't like TTIP here. But milk is processed food anyway, and I suppose it doesn't contain the natural bacteria anymore. Not sure whether I want to know what's in it instead.
Good thing they don't allow them, men can then save money not needing a " Manssiere" ; ) , ( Seinfeld).
 
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fresh_42 said:
But milk is processed food anyway, and I suppose it doesn't contain the natural bacteria anymore.

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Got... raw milk ...salmonellosis ? ...:oldruck:
 
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Kind of bizarre. My breakfast came with , literally, frozen yogurt. I get my oatmeal, and next to it on the tray is a small
plastic cup with a lid, containing some rock-solid-frozen substance. I ask the worker what the substance is, and he just says,
without any noticeable sarcasm ( " without a hint of irony") " Frozen Yogurt" . Two hours later, I enjoyed my , (then) drinkable/edible
yogurt.
 
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So, I liked that Peter and the Wolf business. Not sure why. I guess I got the feeling they were making fun of their own heavy handedness.
 
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Thanks nuuskur.... :oldsmile:
nuuskur likes this.
 
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Couple weeks ago on North Woods Law, a guy had a flock of 26 wild turkeys eating his garden, so he called the game wardens to arrest them. Didn't go very well: they only caught 6.

Anyway, I was surprised that wild turkey flocks could get that big. In fact, to be honest, I thought the wild turkey was a solitary animal.
 
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Borg said:
Like any movie, some of the historical accuracy was off but it was still an enjoyable film.
You should see what Hollywood makes out of non-American history ...
 
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fresh_42 said:
You should see what Hollywood makes out of non-American history ...
I know. I can only imagine how the upcoming Dunkirk movie will butcher history.
 
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Borg said:
I know. I can only imagine how the upcoming Dunkirk movie will butcher history.
The US sends a fleet of small ships across the Atlantic to save British soldiers from Hitler, who is personally leading the attack. Brave GIs hold the ports and, after a ferocious gunfight, kill Hitler in hand-to-hand combat. Hitler was played by a double for the rest of the war.
 
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Ibix said:
The US sends a fleet of small ships across the Atlantic to save British soldiers from Hitler, who is personally leading the attack. Brave GIs hold the ports and, after a ferocious gunfight, kill Hitler in hand-to-hand combat. Hitler was played by a double for the rest of the war.
This is why Inglourious Basterds was such a wonderful movie. Half of its mission was to mock Hollywood film distortions of WWII.
 
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Took my topology qualifier. I know for sure it wasn't a disaster, but not for sure whether I got a master's pass. I keep going over it in my head... But I literally can't' remember a thing about it other than I answered a bunch of questions. Sometimes I felt more as if I was giving my opinion than showing a mathematical proof, but at least it was an *informed* opinion. :D
 

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