What is the Normalisation Constant for an Electron in Spin State?

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The discussion revolves around determining the normalization constant for an electron in a specified spin state represented as a complex vector. Participants explore the implications of the spin state and its mathematical representation.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants express confusion regarding the normalization constant and its significance in the context of spin states. Questions arise about the relationship between normalization and wave functions, as well as the mathematical process for normalizing complex vectors.

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Some participants suggest methods for calculating the normalization constant, while others seek clarification on concepts related to wave functions and normalization. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the relevance of wave functions to the problem at hand.

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Participants note a lack of familiarity with wave functions in their coursework, leading to a focus on the mathematical aspects of normalization. The discussion reflects varying levels of understanding and assumptions about the underlying physics concepts.

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Normalisation constant~ help~~

Homework Statement



An electron is in the spin state |> = A (3i, 4), so determine the normalisation constant A.

Homework Equations



:rolleyes: :frown:

The Attempt at a Solution



:cry: Well, I get confused about this questions, can anybody tell me what the normalisation constant is in this case? And does "in the spin state" mean something for given condition? Thanks a lot.
 
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ZoroP said:

Homework Statement



An electron is in the spin state |> = A (3i, 4), so determine the normalisation constant A.

Homework Equations



:rolleyes: :frown:

The Attempt at a Solution



:cry: Well, I get confused about this questions, can anybody tell me what the normalisation constant is in this case? And does "in the spin state" mean something for given condition? Thanks a lot.
Spin is simply a property that particles posses and this "spin state" describes, well the state of the spin of a particle or system of particles.

As for the question, what does one normally mean when one says a "normalisation constant". What does it mean in the context of a wave function for example?
 


Well, thanks a lot, but i don't think this problem is discussing about wave function, I cannot find any concept about wave function in my lecture notes. Thus, I consider that this question is only about math and calculation. Or maybe you can teach me some about the wave function or any other ideas? Thanks any way~
 


Do you know about complex vectors? And how to normalize those to unit length?
 


yes, o! you mean I can just do it like A = 1/|(3i, 4)|?? Thanks!
 


Yep, that's all there is to it. But don't forget to simplify that expression for A you got now.
 


Thanks, so it's A = 1/5
 


So in Physics we can write the spin state as a function of the particle:

[tex]|\psi \rangle = A \left ( \begin{array}{cc} 3i \\ 4 \end{array} \right)[/tex]

But wave function must integrate to unity over all space, so:

[tex]\langle \psi | \psi \rangle = 1 = A^2\left ( \begin{array}{cc} -3i & 4 \end{array} \right) \left ( \begin{array}{cc} 3i \\ 4 \end{array} \right) = 25A^2[/tex]

So I agree with your answer
 


BerryBoy said:
So in Physics we can write the spin state as a function of the particle:

[tex]|\psi \rangle = A \left ( \begin{array}{cc} 3i \\ 4 \end{array} \right)[/tex]

But wave function must integrate to unity over all space, so:

[tex]\langle \psi | \psi \rangle = 1 = A^2\left ( \begin{array}{cc} -3i & 4 \end{array} \right) \left ( \begin{array}{cc} 3i \\ 4 \end{array} \right) = 25A^2[/tex]

So I agree with your answer


I friggin get it now!
 

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