Work Check: Wavefunction Normalisation

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The discussion revolves around finding the relationship between the normalization constants \(B_1\) and \(B_2\) for a specific wavefunction in quantum mechanics. The wavefunction involves complex exponentials and Gaussian terms, and the normalization condition requires integrating the square of the wavefunction over all space.

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  • Participants explore the normalization condition and the implications of the wavefunction's form. There are attempts to simplify the integral expressions and to relate the constants \(B_1\) and \(B_2\) under different assumptions, including whether these constants are real or complex.

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Some participants have provided insights into the normalization process and have compared results obtained through different methods, such as using software tools. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of assuming \(B_1\) and \(B_2\) are real versus complex.

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There are suggestions regarding the appropriateness of the forum for the topic, with some participants indicating that the problem might be better suited for a more advanced physics discussion. This reflects a potential uncertainty about the complexity of the problem relative to the forum's intended audience.

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Homework Statement


Find relation between real normalisation constants ##B_1## and ##B_2## for the following wavefunction,
$$
\Psi_k =\sum_{k=1,2} \frac{B_k}{\sqrt{4\sigma ^2 + 2it}} \exp (ip_k (x - \frac{p_k}{2}t) - \frac{(x - p_k t)^2}{4\sigma ^2 + 2it})
$$

The working is rather long so thanks in advance for helping, it is greatly appreciated.

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution



Normalisation requires ##\int_{\infty} dx |\Psi (x,0)|^2 = 1##, and
$$\Psi_k (x, 0) =\sum_{k=1,2} \frac{B_k}{2\sigma} \exp (ip_k (x) - \frac{(x)^2}{4\sigma ^2})$$
Knowing that,
$$|\Psi_k|^2 = |B_1 \psi_1|^2 + |B_2 \psi_2|^2 + (B_2 \psi_2)^* (B_1 \psi_1) + (B_2 \psi_2)(B_1 \psi_1)^*$$
$$|B_k \psi_k|^2 = \frac{B_k ^2}{4\sigma^2}\exp (-\frac{x^2}{2\sigma ^2})$$
$$(B_2 \psi_2)(B_1 \psi_1)^* = [\frac{B_1}{2\sigma} \exp (-ip_1 (x) - \frac{(x)^2}{4\sigma ^2})][\frac{B_2}{2\sigma} \exp (ip_2 (x) - \frac{(x)^2}{4\sigma ^2})]$$
$$= \frac{B_1 B_2 }{4\sigma^2} \exp [-i(p_1 - p_2)x - \frac{x^2}{2\sigma^2}]$$
Also,
$$(B_2 \psi_2)^* (B_1 \psi_1) = \frac{B_1 B_2 }{4\sigma^2} \exp [i(p_1 - p_2)x - \frac{x^2}{2\sigma^2}]$$
Before computing the integral, I simplified by letting ##\frac{B_1 B_2}{4\sigma ^2} = \phi##, ##\frac{1}{2\sigma ^2 } = g## and ##p_1 - p_2 = U##
This gave,
$$(B_2 \psi_2)(B_1 \psi_1)^* = \phi \exp (-gx^2 - iUx)$$
$$(B_2 \psi_2)^*(B_1 \psi_1) = \phi \exp (-gx^2 + iUx)$$
The expression for the integral is,
$$\int_{\infty} dx |\Psi (x,0)|^2 = 1 =\int_{\infty} dx [\frac{B_1 ^2 + B_2 ^2}{4\sigma^2}\exp (-gx^2) + \phi \exp (-gx^2 - iUx) + \phi \exp (-gx^2 + iUx)] $$
The integral of the first integrand can be computed with the Gaussian integral result which gives,
$$\frac{B_1 ^2 + B_2 ^2}{4\sigma ^2} \sqrt{\frac{\pi}{g}} = \frac{B_1 ^2 + B_2 ^2}{4\sigma ^2}\sqrt{2\pi \sigma ^2} = \frac{\sqrt{2\pi} (B_1 ^2 + B_2 ^2)}{4\sigma}$$
The integral of the second integrand, which is also equal to that of the third, was done by completing the square,
$$\int_{\infty} dx \phi \exp (-gx^2 - iUx) = \phi e^{\frac{-U^2}{4g}} \int_{\infty} dx \exp (-[\sqrt{g}x + \frac{iU}{2\sqrt{g}}]^2)$$
I used ##dy = \sqrt{g} dx## and rewrote this as,
$$\frac{\phi e^{\frac{-U^2}{4g}}}{\sqrt{g}} \int_{\infty} dx \exp (-y^2) = \frac{\phi e^{\frac{-U^2}{4g}}}{\sqrt{g}} \sqrt{\pi} $$
Substituting for ##g, U, \phi## then gives,
$$\frac{\sqrt{2\pi} B_1 B_2}{4\sigma} \exp (-\frac{(p_1 - p_2)^2 \sigma ^2}{2})$$

Finally, summing up all 3 integrals of all 3 terms gives,

$$1 =\frac{\sqrt{2\pi} (B_1 ^2 + B_2 ^2)}{4\sigma} + \frac{\sqrt{2\pi} B_1 B_2}{2\sigma} \exp (-\frac{(p_1 - p_2)^2 \sigma ^2}{2})
$$
 
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Shouldn't this be moved to the Advanced Physics Homework forum?
 
lekh2003 said:
Shouldn't this be moved to the Advanced Physics Homework forum?

I thought that this was pretty basic stuff (in the context of everything else), and decided to post it here. Apologies if I should have posted this in the other thread.
 
WWCY said:
I thought that this was pretty basic stuff (in the context of everything else), and decided to post it here. Apologies if I should have posted this in the other thread.
Its not about you not posting in the correct forum. I think you might just get some better and faster answers in the advanced physics forum if what you're studying is wave functions and normalization.
 
Could anybody take the time to assist? Many thanks!
 
WWCY said:

Homework Statement


Find relation between real normalisation constants ##B_1## and ##B_2## for the following wavefunction,
$$
\Psi_k =\sum_{k=1,2} \frac{B_k}{\sqrt{4\sigma ^2 + 2it}} \exp (ip_k (x - \frac{p_k}{2}t) - \frac{(x - p_k t)^2}{4\sigma ^2 + 2it})
$$

The working is rather long so thanks in advance for helping, it is greatly appreciated.

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution



Normalisation requires ##\int_{\infty} dx |\Psi (x,0)|^2 = 1##, and
$$\Psi_k (x, 0) =\sum_{k=1,2} \frac{B_k}{2\sigma} \exp (ip_k (x) - \frac{(x)^2}{4\sigma ^2})$$

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$$1 =\frac{\sqrt{2\pi} (B_1 ^2 + B_2 ^2)}{4\sigma} + \frac{\sqrt{2\pi} B_1 B_2}{2\sigma} \exp (-\frac{(p_1 - p_2)^2 \sigma ^2}{2})
$$
Letting ##B_1## and ##B_2## be possibly complex, I used Maple and obtained
$$\int_R |\Psi(x,0)|^2 \, dx = \frac{\sqrt{2 \pi}}{4 \sigma} ( |B_1|^2 + |B_2|^2)
+ \frac{\sqrt{2 \pi}}{4 \sigma} \exp \left( -\frac{1}{2} \sigma^2 (p_1 - p_2)^2 \right) ( B_1 \bar{B_2} + B_2 \bar{B_1})$$
This agrees with your answer if we assume the ##B_i## are real.
 
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Ray Vickson said:
Letting ##B_1## and ##B_2## be possibly complex, I used Maple and obtained
$$\int_R |\Psi(x,0)|^2 \, dx = \frac{\sqrt{2 \pi}}{4 \sigma} ( |B_1|^2 + |B_2|^2)
+ \frac{\sqrt{2 \pi}}{4 \sigma} \exp \left( -\frac{1}{2} \sigma^2 (p_1 - p_2)^2 \right) ( B_1 \bar{B_2} + B_2 \bar{B_1})$$
This agrees with your answer if we assume the ##B_i## are real.
Thank you!
 

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