What Is the Normalization Constant for a 2-Electron Antisymmetric Spin Function?

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The problem involves finding the normalization constant for an antisymmetric spin function representing a two-electron system, specifically the function N[α1β2 - α2β1]. The context is within quantum mechanics, focusing on the properties of spin states and normalization conditions.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the process of squaring the spin function and setting it equal to one for normalization. There are attempts to compute the inner products of the spin states, with some confusion arising over the results of these calculations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the correct interpretation of the inner products involved in the normalization process. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of the normalization constant, including whether it can take on both positive and negative values.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of correctly interpreting the tensor product states and the implications of antisymmetry in the context of two indistinguishable fermions. There is also mention of the general form of valid normalization constants, including phase factors.

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Homework Statement


Given that the antisymmetric spin function for a 2 electron system is N[a1b2-a2b1], find the normalization constant N. (and by a and b I mean the alpha and beta spin states and by 1 and 2, I mean the labels on the two electrons...


Homework Equations


Normalization: 1=integral over all relevant space of (wavefunction*wavefunction)


The Attempt at a Solution


So I tried to square the spin function given, set it equal to 1, and solve for N. However, as the squared value of [a1b2-a2b1]... or what I THINK is the squared value of that, I kept on getting zero... what am I doing wrong in doing:

square of spin function=(N[a1b2-a2b1])^2
=(N^2)<a1b2-a2b1|a1b2-a2b1>
=(N^2)[<a1|a1><b2|b2>-<a1|a2><b2|b1>-<a2|a1><b1|b2>+<a2|a2><b1|b1>]

and because any sort of <a|a> is 1 and so is <b|b>, all those braket stuff are equal to 1, which overall makes the equation 0... I'm confused :(
 
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no, while <a1 b2|a1 b2> = 1, <a1 b2|a2 b1>=0
therefore you get
1= N^2 (1+0+0+1)
1= 2N^2
N = 1/sqrt(2) which is what one would expect naively.

note: the 2e- system has 4 states:
|a1 a2>,|a1 b2>,|a2 b1>,|a2 b2>
these are tensor products. eg. |a1 a2> = |a1>|a2>
 
how did you get (1+0+0+1)? I kept on getitng something like 1-1+1-1 or something that kept on cancelling all out to 0 :(
 
physgirl said:
square of spin function=(N[a1b2-a2b1])^2
=(N^2)<a1b2-a2b1|a1b2-a2b1>
=(N^2)[<a1|a1><b2|b2>-<a1|a2><b2|b1>-<a2|a1><b1|b2>+<a2|a2><b1|b1>]

and because any sort of <a|a> is 1 and so is <b|b>, all those braket stuff are equal to 1, which overall makes the equation 0... I'm confused :(

Your state

<br /> |\psi\rangle = N|\alpha_1\beta_2-\alpha_2\beta_1\rangle<br />

looks bad. Use this kind of notation instead:

<br /> |\psi\rangle = N\big(|\alpha_1\beta_2\rangle-|\alpha_2\beta_1\rangle\big)<br />

When you compute

<br /> \langle\psi|\psi\rangle<br />

don't start splitting states |\alpha_i\beta_j\rangle into sums of states |\alpha_i\rangle and |\beta_j\rangle, because that is wrong.
 
Ok, I got it now : ) but now my question is, I got to the point where N=sqrt(1/2). So can N be both positive AND negative of sqrt(1/2)?
 
physgirl said:
Ok, I got it now : ) but now my question is, I got to the point where N=sqrt(1/2). So can N be both positive AND negative of sqrt(1/2)?

In fact

<br /> N=e^{i\theta}\sqrt{1/2}<br />

are all valid normalization constants, where theta is some arbitrary constant, but the simplest \sqrt{1/2} is usually preferred.
 

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