What is the Optimum Thickness for a Thermal Container Design?

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The discussion centers on determining the optimum thickness of XPS (extruded polystyrene) for a thermal container designed to maintain a cryogenic mix at -15ºC for at least 40 minutes. The user is grappling with the balance between conduction and convection, noting that while increased thickness enhances conduction, it negatively impacts convection. Key calculations involve specific heat, mass, temperature differences, and the equivalent resistance in a cylindrical configuration, but challenges remain regarding the convection coefficient and external temperature.

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Hello everyone, first of all, thank you very much for reading.

I have to design a container (100 mm of height and 80 mm of interior radius of XPS) to keep a cryogenic mix (water and salt ice) at -15ºC at least for 40min. And my problem is to calculate the optimum thickness of XPS.

I've been reviewing thermodynamic and heat transfer theory. I have conduction and convection so if I increase the thickness, I improve conduction but it's not good for convection. Also, I don't know how to connect the thermodynamics and heat transfer theory with warming the ice. I'm having some problems with the convection coefficient too.

If somebody could help me I would be very grateful. Thanks!
 
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I tell you what I have do at the time.

With specific heat of the mixture, the mass and the temperature difference between exit refrigerator temperature and -15ºC I calculate the heat.
On the other way, I obtain the heat of convection and conduction with the equivalent resistance (in a cylinder), and finally, I equalize at the previous heat.
I could calculate the exterior radius if it were not for the convection coefficient and the external temperature of the cylinder. And I can't give the time which I want (40min.)

Any idea? Thanks!

*Edit: -15ºC is the melting point of the cryogenic mix, therefore I can add the latent heats of fusion.
 
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