What is the origin and purpose of hyperbolic trig functions?

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The discussion revolves around the origin and purpose of hyperbolic trigonometric functions, exploring their relationship to right triangles and their geometric interpretations. Participants examine the mathematical properties of hyperbolic functions in comparison to circular trigonometric functions, considering both theoretical and conceptual aspects.

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  • One participant describes a right triangle with sides defined by circular trigonometric functions and attempts to draw parallels with hyperbolic functions, questioning the existence of an angle D in this context.
  • Another participant suggests that if the metric is (+,-), the sides correspond to hyperbolic functions but implies that the concept of angle may differ from traditional angles, relating it to speed rather than a geometric angle.
  • A later reply indicates a misunderstanding in the initial description and provides a link to a resource for analogies between hyperbolic and circular functions.
  • Another participant clarifies their intention to discuss the topic in flat space with a Euclidean metric and questions the original purpose of hyperbolic trigonometric functions, speculating on their relation to right triangles in the complex plane.

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Participants express differing views on the nature of angles in hyperbolic geometry and the applicability of hyperbolic functions in various metrics. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the original purpose of hyperbolic trigonometric functions and their geometric interpretations.

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Participants reference different metrics (Euclidean vs. hyperbolic) and their implications for constructing angles, indicating potential limitations in understanding the geometric relationships involved.

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I hope this is the right place to ask this question.

Imagine a right triangle with vertices A,B and C and corresponding opposite sides a, b and c such that there is a right angle at B and side b is the hypontenuse. Let the length of side b = 1. If I label side a as sin(A) and side c as cos(A), then the Pythagorean theorem gives us [tex]sin^2(A)+cos^2(A)=1[/tex], which we believe to be true in general.

Now use the same triangle but instead let the length of side a =1 and let us call side c "sinh(D)" and b (the hypotenuse) as "cosh(D)". Then the Pythagorean theorem gives us [tex]cosh^2(D)-sinh^2(D)=1[/tex], which we also believe to be true in general.

My question is, where is angle D? Can it be constructed from this triangle or does it have to be found with pure computation (meaning without the aid of a diagram)?
 
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Hi snoopies622! :smile:
snoopies622 said:
I hope this is the right place to ask this question.

You should obviously have asked it in hyperbolic space. :mad:
My question is, where is angle D? Can it be constructed from this triangle or does it have to be found with pure computation (meaning without the aid of a diagram)?

Do you mean a (+,-) metric, like Minkowski space, or do you mean an isotropic homogenous metric, like that of a sphere, but with negative curvature?

If you mean (+,-), then it isn't a real angle, since one dimension is "space" and the other is "time", but yes the sides would be coshD and sinhD, and their ratio tanhD would be a speed, not an angle.

If you mean what I call hyperbolic space, then the angles are ordinary angles, and only the sides are hyperbolic angles. Sin = opposite/hypotenuse still works, but cos = adjacent/hypotenuse doesn't …and there is no D, only a θ. :smile:
 
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I just meant in flat space with a Euclidean metric, but perhaps under those conditions no construction (with straight edge and compass only) is possible. Does anyone know the original purpose of hyperbolic trig functions? Was it to deal with right triangles in the complex plane?
 

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