What Is the Probability of a Drunk Returning to the Lamppost?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves determining the probability of a drunk returning to a lamppost after taking a series of steps, with a focus on the implications of the total number of steps (N) being even or odd.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to derive a probability formula and expresses uncertainty about the implications of even versus odd steps. Some participants question the definitions and assumptions in the problem, particularly regarding the variable m and its role in the steps taken.

Discussion Status

The discussion is exploring various interpretations of the problem, particularly around the relationship between the number of steps and the ability to return to the starting point. Participants are engaging with the original poster's concerns and offering insights into the definitions involved.

Contextual Notes

There is a lack of clarity regarding the definition of m in the context of the steps taken, which some participants have noted as a point of confusion. Additionally, the implications of the odd and even nature of N are being examined but not resolved.

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Homework Statement



Say a drunk starts making his steps of equal distance from a lamppost. Assuming that each of the steps are of equal distance, and N as the total number of steps, what is the probability of him/her ending at the lamppost? Find the probability when N is even and also for odd.



Homework Equations



PN(a) = ( N! p (N+m)/2 q(N-m)/2 ) / [{(N+m)/2}! {(N-m)/2}!]

whree,
a = integer
p = probability of drunk being in the right side of the lamppost
q = probability of drunk being in the left side of the lamppost

The Attempt at a Solution



Derivation of the equation is quite straightforward. I am worried about my answer for this particular problem however. Since the drunk starts from the lamppost (x=0), when the N is even, he can land back to the lamppost. However, if N is odd, he can not land back at 0 (as he/she has to land back to an odd number). I do not know if my understanding is correct. Any clue ?

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I have no idea what this PN(a) = ( N! p (N+m)/2 q(N-m)/2 ) / [{(N+m)/2}! {(N-m)/2}!] is. But you are correct about the odd ones, after odd amount of steps he can only be at an odd integer. Thus the lesson to be learned is when you are drunk always walk an odd number of steps.
 
"Thus the lesson to be learned is when you are drunk always walk an odd number of steps. "

Did you miss ODD in the sentence?

Are you saying that when you start from odd point, you end of up at and when you start from even, you end up at even? If so, yeah the formula says so.
 
Sure. Odd will never get you back where you started. But you never defined what m is. Why not define m to be the number of steps taken to the right? Then you only get back where you started if the number of steps to the left is also m. So N=2m. Get rid of some of those strange expressions like (N+m)/2.
 

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