What is the Probability of Independent Events with Given Probabilities?

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The discussion revolves around the probabilities of two independent events, A and B, with given probabilities of 0.2 and 0.4, and a joint probability of 0.08. Participants explore whether the events are independent and how to calculate various probabilities related to their occurrence.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the condition for independence and question whether the provided probabilities satisfy it. They also explore formulas for calculating the probability of either event occurring, the probability of neither event occurring, and the probability of exactly one event occurring. Some participants express uncertainty about the correct formulas to use.

Discussion Status

Some participants have confirmed the independence of events A and B based on the initial calculations. There is ongoing clarification regarding the correct formulas for calculating the probabilities of events A and B occurring together, separately, or not at all. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly concerning the inclusion of joint probabilities in the calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of homework guidelines, which may limit the extent of assistance they can provide to one another. There is a focus on ensuring that the calculations reflect the nuances of the problem, especially regarding the phrasing of the questions.

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Homework Statement



The two events A and B have probabilities 0.2 and 0.4. Also P (A n B)=0:08.
(a)Are the two events A and B independent? Explain.
(b) Find the probability that either A or B or both occur.
(c) Find the probability that neither A nor B occurs.
(d) Find the probability that exactly one of A or B occurs.


Homework Equations


P(A n B) = P(A)*P(B)

The Attempt at a Solution



My working out:

(a) For 2 events to be independent they must satisfy:
P(A n B) = P(A)*P(B)
so 0.08 = 0.2x0.4
which makes them independent .. Correct ?

(b) hmm not sure about this one! need some helpp

(c) P(neither A or B) = 0.8*0.6 Correct?

(d) hmm maybe P = 0.2*0.6 + 0.4*0.8 = 0.44 ?
 
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(A) is right.

For (B), you need a formula for P(A \cup B). But note that the problem ends with "or both."

For (C), what would be the compliment of "neither A nor B"?

(D) is wrong. You again need to find P(A \cup B), but note the difference between (D) and (B).69
 
eumyang said:
(A) is right.

For (B), you need a formula for P(A \cup B). But note that the problem ends with "or both."

For (C), what would be the compliment of "neither A nor B"?

(D) is wrong. You again need to find P(A \cup B), but note the difference between (D) and (B).


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so for (B) i should use: P(A \cup B) = P(A) + P(B) - P(A n B)

for (C) use P(A^c n B^c) = 1 - P(A \cup B) ??

for (D) use: P(A \cup B) = P(A) + P(B)

Need help asap

thankss
 
DAKIK said:
so for (B) i should use: P(A \cup B) = P(A) + P(B) - P(A n B)

for (D) use: P(A \cup B) = P(A) + P(B)
You sure about these? Again, the end of (B) says "or both". P(A \cap B) would represent the "both," would it not? And in (D), we want "exactly one," so we cannot include both A and B.69
 
eumyang said:
You sure about these? Again, the end of (B) says "or both". P(A \cap B) would represent the "both," would it not? And in (D), we want "exactly one," so we cannot include both A and B.


69

ok so would it look something like that

so for (B) i should use: P(A \cup B) = P(A) + P(B) + P(A n B)

for (D) use: P(A \cup B) = P(A) + P(B) - P(A n B)
 
DAKIK said:
so for (B) i should use: P(A \cup B) = P(A) + P(B) - P(A n B)

for (C) use P(A^c n B^c) = 1 - P(A \cup B) ??

for (D) use: P(A \cup B) = P(A) + P(B)

Need help asap

thankss

eumyang said:
You sure about these? Again, the end of (B) says "or both". P(A \cap B) would represent the "both," would it not?
For (B), he is correct. "P(A\cap B)" is already included in both P(A) and
P(B). In order to count it only once we must subtract off one: P(A\cup B)= P(A)+ P(B)- P(A\cap B).

And in (D), we want "exactly one," so we cannot include both A and B.


69
So for D, you subtract off P(A\cap B) completely- twice.
 
HallsofIvy said:
For (B), he is correct. "P(A\cap B)" is already included in both P(A) and
P(B). In order to count it only once we must subtract off one: P(A\cup B)= P(A)+ P(B)- P(A\cap B).


So for D, you subtract off P(A\cap B) completely- twice.

what do u mean by subract off P(A\cap B) completely ?
so - P(A\cap B) twice ?
 
HallsofIvy said:
For (B), he is correct. "P(A\cap B)" is already included in both P(A) and
P(B). In order to count it only once we must subtract off one: P(A\cup B)= P(A)+ P(B)- P(A\cap B).
That's it, no more posting early in the morning. >.<


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Thanks for the help guys
Appreciate it
 

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