What is the relationship between Young's modulus and bulk modulus in tin?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between Young's modulus and bulk modulus in the context of tin, particularly focusing on the speed of sound in the material and its implications for density calculations.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Exploratory

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  • Participants explore the relationship between Young's modulus and bulk modulus, questioning how these properties relate to the speed of sound in tin. There are attempts to calculate density using given values and to understand the implications of substituting one modulus for another in equations.

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Some participants have provided insights regarding the use of Young's modulus in sound wave calculations, while others express confusion about the results obtained from different substitutions. The discussion is ongoing with various interpretations being explored.

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There is mention of specific values for Young's modulus and the speed of sound in tin, as well as multiple choice options for density. Participants are also considering the context of sound waves in solids and the conditions under which different moduli apply.

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1. The Young's modulus for tin is 4.5x10^10. If the speed of sound in tin is measured to be 2.73km/s , find its density in (kg/m^3) .

a)6.05x10^3
b)23.8x10^3
c)6.35x10^3
d)24.5x10^3
e)6.65x10^3

, E(tin)=4.5x10^10 ,speed of sound in tin=2.73km/s




2. v=sqrt(B/density) -where B is bulk modulus



3. if i substitute B as young's modulus I get answer a) in the choices.


What is difference between bulk modulus and young's modulus and if there is what relation relates them.Thanks.
 
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Bulk modulus = 3*young's modulus.
 
But when i substitute v=sqrt(3Y/density)=sqrt(B/density) i don't get an answer from choices while i do if i substitute v=y/density.is it possible that in sound waves the velocity is proportional to youngs modulus instead of bulk modulus as in other cases.From serway :"For longitudinal sound waves in a solid rod of material, for example, the speed of
sound depends on Young’s modulus Y and the density !. Table 17.1 provides the speed
of sound in several different materials"

please advise.:)
 
any idea anybody?:confused:
 
While calculating the velocity of sound in solid, if the solid is a thin rod, the bulk modulus is replaced by Young's modulus.
 
thanks very much.
 

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