What is the relative area of a rectangular field?

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The problem involves determining the area of a rectangular field as perceived by an astronaut traveling at relativistic speeds along the diagonal. The original poster states the dimensions of the field and introduces the concept of length contraction from special relativity.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the transformation of the rectangular field into a parallelogram due to length contraction. Questions are raised about the nature of this distortion and the implications for calculating the area. Some participants suggest considering the geometry of the situation and the effects of contraction along different axes.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem and the effects of relativistic motion on the geometry of the field. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between the diagonal and the resulting shapes, but no consensus has been reached on the final approach to calculating the area.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of relativistic effects, particularly how length contraction applies differently along the direction of travel compared to perpendicular directions. There is also a reference to a diagram that may aid in visualizing the problem, but details about the diagram are not provided.

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Homework Statement


If the area of a rectangular field has length of 110 m and 80 m.If a spaceship is traveling with 0.9c velocity along the diagonal of the field.Then what is the area of the field seen by the astronaut in the spaceship?

Homework Equations


L=L(initial) Root over (1- (v/c)^2)

The Attempt at a Solution


Guys,this will change to a non-rectangular parallelogram.I used resolved part theory at first to find Lx(along length) and Ly(along breadth). Then, I used the formula of relativity for length contraction on Lx(along length) and Ly(along breadth) . Now I get the area A= Lx*Ly
 
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Why would it become a parallelogram?
 
faradayscat said:
Why would it become a parallelogram?
Length contraction along one diagonal but not along the other would result in a distortion of the rectangle.
 
Contractraction occurs along the direction of travel, but not along direction perpendicular to the direction of travel.

Does this image help?

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DaveC426913 said:
Length contraction along one diagonal but not along the other would result in a distortion of the rectangle.

Ah yes the other diagonal.. totally forgot! Thanks
 
gneill said:
Contractraction occurs along the direction of travel, but not along direction perpendicular to the direction of travel.

Does this image help?
Well now how will I solve the problem?

View attachment 94471
 
Then how will I find the area?
 
Julian102 said:
Then how will I find the area?
Consider a small element dxdy, using coordinates in the direction of and at right angles to the velocity of the spaceship. What is the apparent area of that element?
Sum.
faradayscat said:
Ah yes the other diagonal.. totally forgot! Thanks
No, not the other diagonal, exactly. It's a rectangle, not a square. See gneill's diagram.
 
Julian102 said:
Then how will I find the area?
If you study gneill's diagram, you have two triangles created by the major diagonal. Since there is no length contraction perpendicular to the line of travel, the heights of the triangles are the same as for the original field layout. You have computed the contracted length of the diagonal, so it's a matter of calculating the areas of these triangles and adding them together. If you do a little algebra, there is a simple answer as to what the contracted area of the field is.
 

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