What is the relative velocity of a person running on a ship to the shore?

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The problem involves determining the relative velocity of a person running on a ship to the shore, with the ship moving at a specified speed and angle, and the water current also affecting the overall motion. The context includes vector addition and relative motion in physics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss how to combine the velocities of the ship, the water, and the person running on the ship. There is confusion about whether to factor in the ship's motion when calculating the person's velocity relative to the shore.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, clarifying the relationships between the different velocities involved. Some have provided guidance on how to approach the vector addition necessary to find the person's velocity relative to the shore.

Contextual Notes

There is an emphasis on understanding the relative motion of the person with respect to both the ship and the shore, as well as the need to account for the direction of each vector involved in the calculations.

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Homework Statement



A ship is traveling at 8.0 m/s at an angle of 50 degrees north of east relative to the water. The water moves at 3 m/s due south relative to the shore.
a- Determine the velocity of the ship relative to the shore.
b- A person running along the deck of the ship moves at 2 m/s at 45 degrees south of west. What is his velocity relative to the shore?

Homework Equations



V= (Va cos angle a + Vb cos angle b) i-hat + (Va sin angle a + Vb sin angle b) j-hat

The Attempt at a Solution



part a-
(8cos50 + 3 cos -90) i-hat + (8sin 50 + 3 sin -90) j-hat =

5.14 m/s i-hat + -3.12 m/s j-hat

I am confused about part b. Do I need to factor in the motion of the ship that the person is on? Or do I combine his velocity with that of the water since it is measured relative to the shore?
 
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Well, for part a you wrote

V (ship w/res to water) + V (water w/res to shore) = V ship w/res to shore

Assuming the info for part b is a velocity w/res to the ship, where in the equation do you think you should add the new vector?
 
Since the man is running in a different direction on the ship than the ship is moving, I thought I would have to create a new vector for his direction.
 
That is correct. You need to write V (person w/res to ship).

Now, based on how you did part a, how would you use this additional vector to find the person's velocity w/res to the shore?
 
I created a vector for the guy, which was (2 m/s cos 225) i + (2 m/s sin 225) j and added it to the ship to shore vector, giving me 3.73 m/s i + 1.72 m/s j.

Does that seem correct?
 
Yes, it does.

What you've done is

V (person w/res ship) +V (ship w/res to water) + V (water w/res to shore) = V (person w/res to shore)
 
I see. Thanks a lot for your help.
 

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