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The discussion revolves around calculating the resistance of an immersion heater used to heat water. The problem involves concepts of efficiency, power, and energy transfer in the context of thermal physics.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the application of efficiency in the calculations, questioning the values for voltage and power. There are attempts to clarify how to incorporate the 75% efficiency into the resistance calculation. Some participants express uncertainty about the correctness of their results and the significance of the values used.

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There is ongoing exploration of the calculations, with some participants arriving at similar resistance values but questioning the methods used. Guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between power, voltage, and resistance, though no consensus has been reached on the final answer.

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Participants note the importance of significant figures and the implications of efficiency on energy calculations. There is also a light-hearted comment regarding the temperature of the water for tea, indicating a casual tone in the discussion.

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"A student uses an immersion heater to heat a cup of water (300mL) from 20ºC to 80ºC for tea. If it is 75% efficient and takes 2.5 min, what is the resistance of the heater? (Assume 120-V household voltage.)"

Here's what I did:
V= 0.75 * 120 = 90V
mass of water = 0.3 kg, specific heat c = 4186 J/(kg*Cº)
T = change in temp = 60ºC
t = 2.5 min = 150s

Q (heat) = W (work) = mcT = 75348 J
P = W/t = 502.32 W
P = 0.75 * P = 376.74 W
P = V2/R
R = V2/P = 21.5 ohms

First, are my values for voltage and power correct? I wasn't sure where to apply the 75% efficiency.

Second, is my answer correct? it's supposed to be 21 ohms... I changed some values to have exactly 2 significant figures, but my answer just gets farther away from 21. (for example, I tried changing 75348 J to 75000J, but that makes the answer 21.6 ohms, which is farther away from 21 ohms...)
 
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endeavor said:
"A student uses an immersion heater to heat a cup of water (300mL) from 20ºC to 80ºC for tea. If it is 75% efficient and takes 2.5 min, what is the resistance of the heater? (Assume 120-V household voltage.)"

Here's what I did:
V= 0.75 * 120 = 90V
mass of water = 0.3 kg, specific heat c = 4186 J/(kg*Cº)
T = change in temp = 60ºC
t = 2.5 min = 150s
...

First, are my values for voltage and power correct? I wasn't sure where to apply the 75% efficiency.
No. Since [itex]P = V^2/R \text{ or } P = I^2R[/itex], the energy consumed by the resistance is proportional to the square of the voltage or current. If it is 75% efficient, then [itex]E = .75 * I^2R\Delta t[/itex]

Also, who drinks tea made with 80ºC water? You need to bring it to a boil!

AM
 
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Andrew Mason said:
No. Since [itex]P = V^2/R \text{ or } P = I^2R[/itex], the energy consumed by the resistance is proportional to the square of the voltage or current. If it is 75% efficient, then [itex]E = .75 * I^2R\Delta t[/itex]

Also, who drinks tea made with 80ºC water? You need to bring it to a boil!

AM
So [tex]R = .75 * \frac{V^2}{E}\Delta t[/tex]
but Power = E / time, so
[tex]R = .75 * \frac{V^2}{P}[/tex]
I arrive at the same answer (21.5 ohms) however, but that's probably a coincidence?
 
Your answer is right actually because you didn't use V=90 volts in your calculation.

AM
 
endeavor said:
So [tex]R = .75 * \frac{V^2}{E}\Delta t[/tex]
but Power = E / time, so
[tex]R = .75 * \frac{V^2}{P}[/tex]
I arrive at the same answer (21.5 ohms) however, but that's probably a coincidence?

I also got R=21.5 ohms. First, get the total energy needed to boil the water from 20deg to 80deg. Second, take note that energy per 2.5min is only 75% so u need to make it 100%. Finally, apply R =V^2/P to get R.
 

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