What is the resistive force without considering buoyancy?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the resistive force in a fluid dynamics context, specifically focusing on shear stress and its relation to viscosity, area, and force. The original poster is working on a problem that involves a block moving through a fluid and is attempting to derive the resistive force without considering buoyancy effects.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster outlines a method to calculate the resistive force using shear stress and viscosity, questioning the correctness of their approach. Some participants affirm the analysis, while others raise concerns about the implications of buoyancy in subsequent calculations.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing validation of the original poster's method for calculating the resistive force. However, there is a notable discussion regarding the necessity of considering buoyancy, despite the problem's instruction to neglect it, indicating a productive exploration of assumptions.

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The problem explicitly states to neglect buoyancy, yet participants are questioning the implications of this directive in their calculations, particularly regarding the terminal velocity of the block.

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I am working on part (i). What is the resistive force?

Shear stress= μ*(du/dy) = μU/l = F/A

Since the force is up and down, it causes a shear stress, thus area is parallel to the force and thus it is the 4 faces B*L

Thus, A=4*B*L

→ F=μ*U*A/l = 4*μ*U*L*B/l

Where = viscosity
l=clearance gap
L=length of block
F=Resistive force
A=Area

I'm not sure if that is the correct method. Can someone please verify?
 

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Looks good. The fluid in the gap exerts a vertical shear force on the 4 vertical sides of the block. Looks like the analysis is right on target.
 
Okay thanks, the second part asks me to find the "terminal velocity"

This is what I did

F=4*μ*U*L*B/l=ma
m=ρV
Where ρ is the density of the solid, not the fluid
and V is the volume of the block = (B^2)*L

Plugging that in and simplifying I got U=ρ*B*g*l / (4*μ)

I'm a bit hesitant on that answer because it did not involve the density of the fluid. Is this the correct method?
 
No. There is an upward (buoyant) force from the surrounding liquid acting on the block, equal to weight of the displaced liquid ρliqVg. So the net downward force from the weight of the block combined with the upward (buoyant) force from the surrounding liquid is equal to...?
 
Chestermiller said:
No. There is an upward (buoyant) force from the surrounding liquid acting on the block, equal to weight of the displaced liquid ρliqVg. So the net downward force from the weight of the block combined with the upward (buoyant) force from the surrounding liquid is equal to...?

Oh, I think I'm supposed to ignore that. The problem stated to neglect buoyancy. Is that still necessary?
 

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