Slip Conditions for flow between Parallel Plates

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The problem involves fluid flow between two parallel plates, where the top plate moves with a velocity V and the bottom plate is stationary. The discussion centers on the implications of slip conditions on the velocity profile and shear stress in the fluid, particularly how these factors relate to the distance between the plates.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants explore the relationship between velocity, shear rate, and the distance between the plates, questioning how slip conditions affect these parameters. There is discussion about whether to include certain distances in the calculations and how to interpret the shear stress in relation to the velocity profile.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, raising questions about the setup and the implications of slip conditions. Some have provided insights into the shear rate and its calculation, while others are clarifying the problem statement and its assumptions. There is no explicit consensus, but several productive lines of reasoning are being explored.

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There is mention of a potential typo in the problem statement regarding the no-slip condition, which may affect the interpretation of the problem. Participants are also considering how additional parameters, such as the distance b, influence the overall analysis.

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Homework Statement
A) Analyze velocity profile
B) Determine shear stress at both walls
Relevant Equations
Fluid flow between two parallel plates with slip of,
$$ \delta u \approx l (du/dy)$$
The problem states:

Two parallel plates separated by distance h, the plate at the top moves with velocity V, while the one at the bottom remains stationary.

My initial approach was:

I considered, ##du/dy = V/h## and for the shear stress ##\tau = \mu \frac{\partial u}{\partial y}##

For $$\frac{\partial u}{\partial y} = \frac{U_{top}-U_{bottom}}{h}$$

Where I considered the fluid's velocity at the top plate to be, ##U_{top} = V - \delta u## , and at the bottom, ##U_{bot} = 0 + \delta u##.

In order to improve my understanding, I searched for a diagram that illustrated the phenomena, which shows (apologies for the low quality) :
Screen Shot 2021-01-19 at 7.05.36 PM.png


This ##b## distance in the diagram is the ##l## of my equation at the top. So I am wondering if it should be included as part of the ##dy## term, as ##dy = h - l## or should it be part of the ##\partial y = h - l ## or if my original analysis was correct?

Thanks a lot guys, your time and help are very appreciated.
 
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The velocity at the top is V and the velocity at the base is 0. Forget the diagram. The shear rate is V/h.
 
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Chestermiller said:
The velocity at the top is V and the velocity at the base is 0. Forget the diagram. The shear rate is V/h.

That is for no-slip condition, this is Slip condition. The velocity at the top is not V, because there is slip. Same at the bottom, the fluid is not attached to the plate, as there is slip.
 
Can you render the actual problem statement in full?:
 
BvU said:
Can you render the actual problem statement in full?:
The diagram says *No-slip* but that is a typo (the teacher said so).
Screen Shot 2021-01-20 at 4.53.13 PM.png
 
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I see. In that case your picture is sensible and something similar occurs at the top plate.

Effectively ##h## is increased by ##2b##. Arguing that ##\tau## is a one-side derivative is thin ice, but I suppose that's what is meant.
 
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BvU said:
I see. In that case your picture is sensible and something similar occurs at the top plate.

Effectively ##h## is increased by ##2b##. Arguing that ##\tau## is a one-side derivative is thin ice, but I suppose that's what is meant.
I see, that makes sense. Would you say du/dy is the usual slope V/h ? While ##\partial u / \partial y ## accounts for the velocity V affected by slip and the "new" height, such that ## (V - 2\delta u)/(h + 2b) ## ?
 
Not both.
 
I get a fluid velocity at y = 0 of ##u(0)=l\gamma##, where ##\gamma## is the shear rate. And, at y = h, I get a fluid velocity of ##u(h)=V-l\gamma##. So, for the shear rate, I get $$\gamma=\frac{u(h)-u(0)}{h}=\frac{(V-l\gamma)-l\gamma}{h}=\frac{V-2l\gamma}{h}$$Solving for ##\gamma## gives:$$\gamma=\frac{V/h}{\left(1+2\frac{l}{h}\right)}$$
What do you guys think?
 
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Chestermiller said:
I get a fluid velocity at y = 0 of ##u(0)=l\gamma##, where ##\gamma## is the shear rate. And, at y = h, I get a fluid velocity of ##u(h)=V-l\gamma##. So, for the shear rate, I get $$\gamma=\frac{u(h)-u(0)}{h}=\frac{(V-l\gamma)-l\gamma}{h}=\frac{V-2l\gamma}{h}$$Solving for ##\gamma## gives:$$\gamma=\frac{V/h}{\left(1+2\frac{l}{h}\right)}$$
What do you guys think?
That is correct Sir, I think. By doing ##\delta u = \ell du/dy = \ell V/(h+2l) ## we can arrive to the same form.
Thank you!
 

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