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The discussion revolves around interpreting a complex numbers question involving the Argand diagram. Participants are focused on understanding the second part of the question, which asks for the loci determined by three complex functions as a variable z moves around a specified curve.

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  • One participant expresses confusion about whether to replace z in the equation |z + 1 + i| = 8 with the functions u, v, and w.
  • Another participant suggests viewing u, v, and w as functions that map the complex number z to new coordinates based on its real and imaginary parts.
  • A further reply proposes that the locus for function v can be derived by substituting z with its expression in terms of v, leading to a new equation.
  • Another participant clarifies that the task involves drawing the original curve and then determining the new locus for each point on that curve as defined by the functions, rather than directly substituting z in the original equation.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the interpretation of the second part of the question. There are competing views on how to approach the problem, particularly regarding the substitution of z and the mapping of points.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the definitions of the functions u, v, and w may not be explicitly stated, leading to different interpretations of how to apply them to the original curve. The discussion also reflects varying levels of understanding regarding the geometric implications of the mappings.

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This discussion may be useful for students studying complex numbers, particularly those interested in understanding mappings in the Argand diagram and the geometric interpretation of complex functions.

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Hi I was asked to do a question on Complex numbers. Here is the question

Describe fully the curve in the Argand diagram whose equation is
|z + 1 + i| = 8 .

Describe fully the three loci determined, as z moves round this curve, by the three complex numbers u, v and w defined as follows:
(i) u = 2x + iy (where z = x + iy );
(ii) v = z + 4 + 3i ;
(iii) w = iv .

I got the first part no problems, its the second part - what does it mean by "as z moves round this curve, by the three complex numbers u, v and w" :confused: I am really confused. Does it mean replace the z in the equation |z + 1 + i| = 8 by u,v and w each time or something else? could somebody help me. Thanks a million.:frown:
 
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Regard u as a function that maps x + iy to 2x + iy.
Regard v as a function that maps x + iy to (x+4) + (3+y)i
Regard w as a function that maps x + iy to (-3-y) + (x+4)i

Find the image of the curve {z : |z+1+i| = 8} under the "functions" u, v, and w.
 
Ok, does it mean, taking the function v for example. the locus would be given by
|(x+4) + (3+y)i+1+i| = 8
which is |(x+5)+(4+y)i|=8

where z in |z+1+i| = 8 is replaced by the new "function" v=(x+4) + (3+y)i? Thanks
 
No. Draw the curve defined by |z + 1 + i| = 8 using black ink, let's call this curve (it's a circle) C. Pick a point somewhere on C, let's call this point x0 + iy0. Draw a red dot at the point 2x0 + iy0. Pick another point x1 + iy1 on C. Draw a red dot at the point 2x1 + iy1. Do this for every point on C. The red curve is the locus determined by v as z moves around C. Describe this curve, and you're done question (i).
 

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