What is the significance of multiple videos of the same event?

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The discussion centers around a series of videos depicting a mysterious event over the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem, sparking debates about their authenticity. Participants express skepticism, with some labeling the footage as a potential hoax due to the lack of independent eyewitness accounts and the convenience of all witnesses having cameras. The videos show lights behaving in unusual ways, leading to theories about their nature, including suggestions of advanced technology or even bioplasmic energy rather than extraterrestrial origins. There is a notable emphasis on the absence of diverse perspectives in the footage, as many videos appear to come from the same location. The conversation also touches on the broader context of UFO sightings, public apathy towards them, and the challenges of discerning reality from digital manipulation in an age where video editing tools are widely accessible. Overall, the thread reflects a mix of curiosity, skepticism, and a desire for more concrete evidence regarding the phenomenon.
  • #51
I use a ruler in the monitor to detect if the light that descends is straight down or move with the background. It moves with the background. Thought I could debunk it by the ruler method. If it moves straight down even if the background is moving, then it is obviously fake but the designer of it seemed to be a good one (if fake). If you detect any image processing anomaly, let us know. Although the one with american tourists are obviously fake as the lights are steady and really taken from an LCD monitor.

UFO sightings were of two kinds.. one just ball of lights, the other one with structures. I can accept some balls of lights as energy creatures like ghosts which are abound in my country. But with the structured object like flying Triangles. I don't have an idea what they are after a decade of investigation. Some Flying Triangles can accelerate fast too as if able to control inertia. When the light ascends up again from the Temple Mount, you can see red lights above rotating. Darn. Hope it's not a Dark Triangle and the light a probe, because it is disturbing to consider the possibility real aliens are involved.

For sure, at least a witness or two aside from those with camera could discuss about it in Israel web sites and chat room written in their language. Someone who knows Israel language better check it out. If none can be found. It's more likely it's just all a hoax. If so, it's better that way because Black Triangle sending probes to the Temple Mount is not good for us. Religions are the cause of war on Earth and a trouble maker. And something messing with religion is not good sign. Religion is a tool for war.
 
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  • #53
Alfrez said:
UFO sightings were of two kinds..

Seriously people, a UFO is any object in the sky we cannot identify. Period. Full stop. Finished.
I can accept some balls of lights as energy creatures like ghosts which are abound in my country.

There is precisely zero evidence of ghosts and so I think it's best we leave them out of the equation.
Some Flying Triangles can accelerate fast too as if able to control inertia.

Again, zippo in the way of evidence so let's leave that out.
When the light ascends up again from the Temple Mount, you can see red lights above rotating. Darn. Hope it's not a Dark Triangle and the light a probe, because it is disturbing to consider the possibility real aliens are involved.

Red lights? Like those that mark aircraft orientation (port I believe)? No need to invoke aliens.
And something messing with religion is not good sign.

I'm going to take this light heartedly, but again this is way, way out there in the speculation area.

That's more like it MacLaddy!
 
  • #54
Put out today from Israel.

http://www.isrealli.org/ufo-sighting-over-temple-mount-has-interwebs-on-fire/
 
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  • #55
Lacy33 said:
Put out today from Israel.

http://www.isrealli.org/ufo-sighting-over-temple-mount-has-interwebs-on-fire/

Again though, all about the videos. Not seeing eyewitnesses.

I'm pretty much sold on hoax at the moment.
 
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  • #56
Lacy33 said:
Sometimes we see things that seem so real and important that is takes a while to process it.
Back a few months I saw a very strange event while resting in the garden of our high rise at night.
I was so stunned by the event that I simply walked around for days saying "I just saw a UFO! Why am I all excited about it."
I am the mystical type kid out a family of scientists. Too bad for me. But I still don't buy something just because it will fill a gap.
I found the post for that sighting:
https://www.physicsforums.com/showpost.php?p=2926255&postcount=39
Knowing the world today, and having lived enough to know, there really is no one whom to report a real UFO.
We saw one in 1980, St Paul, MN USA. We ran upstairs and called the police. I explained to them I was a nurse and not a nut. We just saw a UFO and where. They said " Outer space is not our jurisdiction, call the air force." So we talked about calling the airport and got some number. Don't think we called.
Who do you call?

The first thing that makes me question your objective observer status, is that you were stunned. As someone pointed out in that thread, it could be a RC toy, or a number of other things. It seems pointless, but then, why are people shining laser pointers into airplane cockpits? There are always some people who want to play games with others, and there are always people looking for something to believe in, or support for what they already believe.
 
  • #57
Red lights can also be atmospheric reflections of radio and cell tower warning lights, or just those lights. People see and believe some very odd things, and for all the incredible sightings there isn't incredible video. In this one case there is incredible video, but only the videographers saw it? Yeah, obviously a hoax in a land where that's not exactly unheard of.
 
  • #58
Nicodemus said:
in a land where that's not exactly unheard of.

And importantly, a land it could be very beneficial.
 
  • #60
No, look at the second links posted by MacLaddy (thank you). Written on the video are the people who are coming out and saying they have seen this. Am I wrong? I tried to copy it but its on the video.
 
  • #61
Lacy33 said:
No, look at the second links posted by MacLaddy (thank you). Written on the video are the people who are coming out and saying they have seen this. Am I wrong? I tried to copy it but its on the video.

The person writing it is from a UFO and Paranormal website and claims they're planning a massive cover up.

The fact the last section says "the government and media are lying to you, aliens are visiting earth, demand your government tell the truth" says it all.

These are UFO nut jobs. Nothing credible there.

I could show them exactly how one of these videos is faked and they'd still tell me I'm talking through my ***.
 
  • #62
jarednjames said:
The person writing it is from a UFO and Paranormal website and claims they're planning a massive cover up.

The fact the last section says "the government and media are lying to you, aliens are visiting earth, demand your government tell the truth" says it all.

These are UFO nut jobs. Nothing credible there.

I could show them exactly how one of these videos is faked and they'd still tell me I'm talking through my ***.

I see now. I was trying to read it in small print.
So you you think all of these Dome videos are fake or are you just saying about any fake ufo this group would not believe cause they are close minded?
 
  • #64
"While there are those which eliminate the possibility that contempt aliens and holidays over the wall, other scientists argue: It is very possible that the wall is an attraction for beings from outer space," "At first, residents did not seem unusual phenomenon, but soon began to sparkle ball to make movements over the Old City"

Couldn't have said it better myself. (I think) :confused:
 
  • #65
Lacy33 said:
OK! Now what? We all have to get along or something? I hate everyone.
I don't want to be good.
I didn't know we had neighbors! :cry:

I don't know what this means, or the part in the post after it about small print.
 
  • #66
I am fairly confident of the "Hoax" label after reading the comments from the locals. Interesting how little buzz this is creating in the area.
 
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  • #67
Lacy33 said:
So you you think all of these Dome videos are fake

I do, pending further evidence.
are you just saying about any fake ufo this group would not believe cause they are close minded?

I am. The basic attitude shown on that video tells you all you need to know about them.
 
  • #68
macladdy said:
couldn't have said it better myself. (i think) :confused:

lol!
 
  • #69
Nicodemus said:
I don't know what this means, or the part in the post after it about small print.

I was admitting I was not ready to face a reality of UFO's and the part about the small print is where I missread and thought there were many people who were now coming out saying they saw it.

So we conclude here that the Dome UFO's are a hoax of some type and not real at all? Well until one lands on our picnic table?
 
  • #70
Lacy33 said:
So we conclude here that the Dome UFO's are a hoax of some type and not real at all? Well until one lands on our picnic table?

Well let's review the evidence:

1. Four sketchy videos.
2. No eye witnesses identified (outside of the video owners - careful, they are flaunting them as separate eye witnesses in some sources - clever wording).
3. No official reports of anything outside of the videos.
4. The only people claiming potential eye witnesses so far are a UFO/Paranormal crackpot site.
5. Potential link to a movie viral ad campaign.

Would you say things are looking good for it?
 
  • #71
jarednjames said:
1. Four sketchy videos.

Actually, I believe that would be "Three sketchy videos." The third one to come out is obviously a fake.
 
  • #72
jarednjames said:
Well let's review the evidence:

1. Four sketchy videos.
2. No eye witnesses identified (outside of the video owners - careful, they are flaunting them as separate eye witnesses in some sources - clever wording).
3. No official reports of anything outside of the videos.
4. The only people claiming potential eye witnesses so far are a UFO/Paranormal crackpot site.
5. Potential link to a movie viral ad campaign.

Would you say things are looking good for it?

I would agree that you collected a pretty good sample of a couple days work for the folks here.
I might also add that this (event), if it happened, did so over the a piece of land that has to be the most potentially combustible piece of real estate on the planet. That the aliens want it too? Am I suprised?
I think this has been very interesting and fun.

I remain in wait mode.

OMgosh! I hope they did not come for Ed Witten! His students say he is an alien. :eek:
 
  • #73
MacLaddy said:
Actually, I believe that would be "Three sketchy videos." The third one to come out is obviously a fake.

What do you think of the 4th one?
 
  • #74
jarednjames said:
Well let's review the evidence:

1. Four sketchy videos.
2. No eye witnesses identified (outside of the video owners - careful, they are flaunting them as separate eye witnesses in some sources - clever wording).
3. No official reports of anything outside of the videos.
4. The only people claiming potential eye witnesses so far are a UFO/Paranormal crackpot site.
5. Potential link to a movie viral ad campaign.

Would you say things are looking good for it?

It's easier to call it a hoax but then are you familar with the entire UFO phenomena. Do you think Budd Hopkins is a hoax? I'm asking this because in the book Sight Unseen, Budd Hopkins mentioned that UFOs can be made to appear to certain people only. In fact, some abductions allegedly occurred in busy street at daytime with the UFO hovering at the abductee's house. One time, an abductee was lowered to the ground floor while being taken up from 5th floor. I don't have proof of any of this. Just mentioning it. Now what has this got to do with Temple Mount sightings? The UFO above can initiate a Lorentz metric spacetime holographic inserts such that in the vicinity of the Temple Mount, the UFO would be invisible to the people. While outside the spacetime override zone, it is visible. In Einstein block spacetime, the spacetime in the temple mount is not the same as the spacetime a mile away. There are differences in the space and time components which the aliens could manipulate to make the UFO visible in one place and invisible in the other place.

Of course I don't have any proof of this. I'm just mentioning the research of abduction researchers like Budd Hopkins. What's the consensus here of Hopkins? Is he a fraud? Show supporting evidence he is a fraud. I'm all ears. I don't have any consensus about abductions.

Best thing to do in this UFO Temple mount incidents is to round up the witnesses and give them lie detector tests and investigate them because if the spacetime holographic insertion technology by the aliens is real, only they could be in the vantage point to witness or record them.

Now what is the light doing at the Temple Mount. Rumor has it that below the Temple Mount lie an ancient technology called the Ark of the Covenant. Temples are build over it to house it and protect it. So it's not impossible that UFOs are involved in this possible ancient connection.

Am I getting nuts? Lol.. dispute what I'm saying as I'm more comfortable if they were wrong. Debunk all UFO incidents and it's better for our peace of mind that way. We already have trouble dealing with Bin Laden.. An interplanetary mafia is more distressing. Lol...
 
  • #75
Alfrez said:
It's easier to call it a hoax but then are you familar with the entire UFO phenomena. Do you think Budd Hopkins is a hoax? I'm asking this because in the book Sight Unseen, Budd Hopkins mentioned that UFOs can be made to appear to certain people only. In fact, some abductions allegedly occurred in busy street at daytime with the UFO hovering at the abductee's house. One time, an abductee was lowered to the ground floor while being taken up from 5th floor. I don't have proof of any of this. Just mentioning it. Now what has this got to do with Temple Mount sightings? The UFO above can initiate a Lorentz metric spacetime holographic inserts such that in the vicinity of the Temple Mount, the UFO would be invisible to the people. While outside the spacetime override zone, it is visible. In Einstein block spacetime, the spacetime in the temple mount is not the same as the spacetime a mile away. There are differences in the space and time components which the aliens could manipulate to make the UFO visible in one place and invisible in the other place.

Of course I don't have any proof of this. I'm just mentioning the research of abduction researchers like Budd Hopkins. What's the consensus here of Hopkins? Is he a fraud? Show supporting evidence he is a fraud. I'm all ears. I don't have any consensus about abductions.

Best thing to do in this UFO Temple mount incidents is to round up the witnesses and give them lie detector tests and investigate them because if the spacetime holographic insertion technology by the aliens is real, only they could be in the vantage point to witness or record them.

Now what is the light doing at the Temple Mount. Rumor has it that below the Temple Mount lie an ancient technology called the Ark of the Covenant. Temples are build over it to house it and protect it. So it's not impossible that UFOs are involved in this possible ancient connection.

Am I getting nuts? Lol.. dispute what I'm saying as I'm more comfortable if they were wrong. Debunk all UFO incidents and it's better for our peace of mind that way. We already have trouble dealing with Bin Laden.. An interplanetary mafia is more distressing. Lol...

And thank you very much. I was aware of much of this as well. would you please call me> thank you.
 
  • #76
Lacy33 said:
What do you think of the 4th one?

The fourth one seems more convincing on the surface, but there is some speculation regarding the zoom feature. This YouTube user is so determined to prove that it's a hoax that I believe he/she will find anything they want, nevertheless, it is somewhat convincing.

http://www.youtube.com/user/HOAXKiller1#p/a/u/1/uKR1OIQFsFg
 
  • #77
Alfrez said:
It's easier to call it a hoax but then are you familar with the entire UFO phenomena. Do you think Budd Hopkins is a hoax? I'm asking this because in the book Sight Unseen, Budd Hopkins mentioned that UFOs can be made to appear to certain people only.

Well then, that's only slightly convenient. As a recovering Coastaholic I am very familiar with Budd Hopkins and his little square pieces of paper.

Why are UFOlogists always authors?
 
  • #78
Alfrez said:
It's easier to call it a hoax but then are you familar with the entire UFO phenomena. Do you think Budd Hopkins is a hoax? I'm asking this because in the book Sight Unseen, Budd Hopkins mentioned that UFOs can be made to appear to certain people only. In fact, some abductions allegedly occurred in busy street at daytime with the UFO hovering at the abductee's house. One time, an abductee was lowered to the ground floor while being taken up from 5th floor. I don't have proof of any of this. Just mentioning it. Now what has this got to do with Temple Mount sightings? The UFO above can initiate a Lorentz metric spacetime holographic inserts such that in the vicinity of the Temple Mount, the UFO would be invisible to the people. While outside the spacetime override zone, it is visible. In Einstein block spacetime, the spacetime in the temple mount is not the same as the spacetime a mile away. There are differences in the space and time components which the aliens could manipulate to make the UFO visible in one place and invisible in the other place.

Of course I don't have any proof of this. I'm just mentioning the research of abduction researchers like Budd Hopkins. What's the consensus here of Hopkins? Is he a fraud? Show supporting evidence he is a fraud. I'm all ears. I don't have any consensus about abductions.

There is absolutely no evidence to back any of this up. Period. It's all techno-babble and psuedo-science. Nothing of substance in the above.

It is not down to us to disprove anything. If you (or this Hopkins guy) make a claim, the responsibility is with you (him) to back it up with evidence. That is how it works. Until then, there is no reason to believe anything you/he claims.

Please note the site rules on overly speculative posts and personal theories (that covers everything in your post).
Best thing to do in this UFO Temple mount incidents is to round up the witnesses and give them lie detector tests and investigate them because if the spacetime holographic insertion technology by the aliens is real, only they could be in the vantage point to witness or record them.

As above.
Now what is the light doing at the Temple Mount. Rumor has it that below the Temple Mount lie an ancient technology called the Ark of the Covenant. Temples are build over it to house it and protect it. So it's not impossible that UFOs are involved in this possible ancient connection.

As above.

Start backing your posts up or stop posting this rubbish.
 
  • #79
How about this one.
The Jews when receiving the Torah were not at the foot of the mountain.
They were "under it" Yeah!
One secret per night.
This is a really loaded topic for now. ...
Let's all meet for ice cream! :biggrin:
 
  • #80
Lacy33 said:
How about this one.
The Jews when receiving the Torah were not at the foot of the mountain.
They were "under it" Yeah!
One secret per night.
This is a really loaded topic for now. ...
Let's all meet for ice cream! :biggrin:


I give up, are you taking this seriously or just posting random stuff here? I can't make sense of half the stuff you've written here.
 
  • #81
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