What is the significance of tangent lines in understanding curve slopes?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of tangent lines in relation to curve slopes, particularly focusing on how tangent lines relate to the slopes of curves like y = x^2. Participants explore the variability of slopes at different points on a curve and the implications of this variability.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the nature of tangent lines and how they relate to the slopes of curves at specific points. Questions about the definition of a "true" tangent line and the role of limits in understanding tangent lines are raised. Some participants also mention secant lines as a related concept.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing insights about tangent lines and derivatives. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between tangent lines and derivatives, and there is an acknowledgment of the complexity of the topic. Participants are exploring different interpretations and clarifying their understanding of the concepts involved.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the definitions and implications of tangent and secant lines, as well as the role of derivatives in determining slopes. Participants are also considering the limitations of their current understanding and the tools available for visualizing these concepts.

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A tangent to a curve is a line that touches the curve but at what specific point where there is a slope to the curve. Equations like y = X^2 have many slopes because the curve is shaped differently at different points. We can choose 2 points on the graph and find the slope but it will different all the time. What is a true answer for tangent line?
 
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It's a limit concept. Are you familiar with limits?
 
Yes where x goes to zero or infinity or any value.
 
aznHypnotix said:
A tangent to a curve is a line that touches the curve but at what specific point where there is a slope to the curve. Equations like y = X^2 have many slopes because the curve is shaped differently at different points. We can choose 2 points on the graph and find the slope but it will different all the time. What is a true answer for tangent line?
There isn't any "true" answer for tangent line. As you said, it all depends at which point on the curve you choose to evaluate the tangent line. Think about it this way: Suppose y=x+3. What is the "true" value of y here?

EDIT: Upon reading your OP for the 2nd time, I suppose you might be referring instead to secant lines. There are a number of animations you can view online:
http://www.math.umn.edu/~garrett/qy/Secant.html

And Wikipedia's page here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secant_line#Secant_approximation

Unfortunately the computer I'm using doesn't have java installed properly, so I can't verify if it works.
 
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thanks defender, I'm beginning to understand. Those are some great links you provided. I forgot about the secant line. That makes more sense to me now.
 
Since the "slope" of the curve varies from point to point, the curve has a different tangent line at each point.
 
Furthermore, the slope of a tangent line touching at a specific x value is the result of the derivative of the equation.

For example, the derivative of y=x2 is 2x. At x=2, the slope of the line tangent to your equation is 4. (2x = 2(2) = 4).
 
That is a good way of putting it chislam. I can see it now. I like derivatives and slopes. It is cool.
 

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