What is the Solution for Differential Equation Task 7?

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The discussion revolves around a differential equation task involving the function y=(1/4)tsin2t and its satisfaction of the equation d²y/dt² + 4y = cos2t. Participants are tasked with finding the general solution and applying specific boundary conditions.

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  • Participants discuss the general solution of the differential equation and the implications of applying boundary conditions y(0)=0 and y'(0)=0. There are questions regarding the values of constants A and B, and the significance of the result 0=0 after applying these conditions.

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Some participants have proposed values for A and B, while others are questioning the reasoning behind these values. The discussion is ongoing, with attempts to clarify the implications of the boundary conditions and the behavior of the solution as t increases.

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Participants are exploring the implications of the boundary conditions within the context of the problem, noting that the results lead to specific interpretations of the graph of y(t) for t>0.

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Task 7
Show that y=(1/4)tsin2t satisfies equation

d2y/dt2+4y=cos2t

Find the general solution and deduce the solution which satisfies y(0)=0 and y'(0)=0. What happens as t increases?

Solution

In the end I stay with:
y=Acos2t+Bsin2t+(1/4)tsin2t

dy/dx=-2Asin2t+2Bcos2t+(1/2)tcos2t+(1/4)sin2t

After applying boundary conditions I get:
0=0

What does it mean and what happens as 't' is increasing? I was asked to plot a graph.
 
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mathi85 said:
Task 7
Show that y=(1/4)tsin2t satisfies equation

d2y/dt2+4y=cos2t

Find the general solution and deduce the solution which satisfies y(0)=0 and y'(0)=0. What happens as t increases?

Solution

In the end I stay with:
y=Acos2t+Bsin2t+(1/4)tsin2t

Yes, it is the general solution of the differential equation. Now you have to choose A and B so that both y and y' is zero at t=0.

mathi85 said:
dy/dx=-2Asin2t+2Bcos2t+(1/2)tcos2t+(1/4)sin2t

After applying boundary conditions I get:
0=0

What does it mean and what happens as 't' is increasing? I was asked to plot a graph.

0=0 does not mean anything. What are A and B if y(0)=0 and y'(0)=0?

Substitute zero for t in y=Acos2t+Bsin2t+(1/4)tsin2t, what do you get? Do the same for y'.

You have to plot the y(t) graph for t>0.ehild
 
I get that
A=0
 
How can I find B?
 
If B equals 0 as well then the graph will look like a Christmas tree.

But why would B equal 0?
 
But this is simple!
I had some brain freeze...
Thanks for help!
 
Simple, isn't it? y'(0)=0, so -2Asin2t+2Bcos2t+(1/2)tcos2t+(1/4)sin2t=0 and A=0, 0=2Bcos(0) -->B=0.
Yes, the graph looks like a horizontal Christmas-tree:smile:

ehild
 

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