What is the span of {(1; 1; 0),(0; 0; 2)}?

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The discussion revolves around determining the span of the set of vectors {(1; 1; 0), (0; 0; 2)} in a linear algebra context. Participants are exploring how to express the span and its implications in terms of linear combinations of the given vectors.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the expression of the span as linear combinations of the vectors, questioning how to represent the answer correctly. There is also a query about the relationship between the vectors (0, 0, 2) and (0, 0, 1), specifically regarding scalar multiples.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the nature of the span and questioning the notation used in the answer. Some clarification has been offered regarding the scalar relationship between the vectors, but no consensus has been reached on the final expression of the span.

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Participants express a desire to understand the reasoning behind the notation used in the answer provided on the homework sheet. There is an acknowledgment of the potential for multiple valid representations of the span.

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Homework Statement



What is the span of {(1; 1; 0),(0; 0; 2)}?




The Attempt at a Solution



So the span is λ1(1; 1; 0) + λ2(0; 0; 2)

But how should I express my answer?
The given answer on the sheet is as below:
The span is {( λ,λ,β )|λ,βεR}
 
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negation said:

Homework Statement



What is the span of {(1; 1; 0),(0; 0; 2)}?




The Attempt at a Solution



So the span is λ1(1; 1; 0) + λ2(0; 0; 2)
The span is all linear combinations of <1, 1, 0> and <0, 0, 2>, which is the same span as all linear combinations of <1, 1, 0> and <0, 0, 1>.

Using the same letters as in the answer, the span is all vectors of the form λ<1, 1, 0> + β<0, 0, 1> = <λ, λ, 0> + <0, 0, β>, or more simply, <λ, λ, β>, with λ and β arbitrary reals.
negation said:
But how should I express my answer?
The given answer on the sheet is as below:
The span is {( λ,λ,β )|λ,βεR}
 
Mark44 said:
The span is all linear combinations of <1, 1, 0> and <0, 0, 2>, which is the same span as all linear combinations of <1, 1, 0> and <0, 0, 1>.

Using the same letters as in the answer, the span is all vectors of the form λ<1, 1, 0> + β<0, 0, 1> = <λ, λ, 0> + <0, 0, β>, or more simply, <λ, λ, β>, with λ and β arbitrary reals.

In red, where did <0,0,1> came from? 2<0,0,1> = <0,0,2>?

Edit: Alright, let's not complicate things since my intention was only to know why the answer was expressed in the way it was.
Thanks
 
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negation said:
In red, where did <0,0,1> came from? 2<0,0,1> = <0,0,2>?
Yes, <0, 0, 2> is a scalar multiple of <0, 0, 1>. You could just as well have picked <0, 0, 17>.
negation said:
Edit: Alright, let's not complicate things since my intention was only to know why the answer was expressed in the way it was.
Thanks
 
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