What is the speed of three stars rotating in an equilateral triangle?

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The problem involves three identical stars of mass M arranged in an equilateral triangle, rotating around the triangle's center. The objective is to determine the speed of the stars as they move in a circular path about that center, given the edge length of the triangle.

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the edge length of the triangle and the radius of the circular path, with one participant attempting to derive the radius from the triangle's geometry. Others explore the forces acting on the stars, particularly the centripetal force and gravitational interactions.

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There are multiple lines of reasoning being explored, with participants questioning the calculations and assumptions made regarding the forces and geometry involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the nature of the forces acting on the stars, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach or solution.

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Participants are grappling with the implications of using Kepler's laws and the gravitational force in their calculations, as well as the specific setup of the problem involving three stars in a triangular formation.

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Homework Statement


Three identical stars of mass M = 8.9 x 1030 kg form an equilateral triangle that rotates around the triangle's center as the stars move in a common circle about that center. The triangle has edge length L = 2.8 x 1010 m. What is the speed of the stars?

Homework Equations


Kepler's 3rd Law: T^2=(4*π^2/GM)*R^3
v=2πR/T

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I used L to find an expression for R, namely R=L/sqrt(3), since its a equilateral triangle and L one of the sides (this is probably where I went wrong). I then used the two equations above to calculate the speed.
Now I know that the correct solution to this question is v=(GM/L)^0.5=1.456*10^5,
can someone pls explain to me why it is so?
 
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Start with the basics: centripetal force being provided by the net gravitational force on any given star in the system.
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gneill said:
Start with the basics: centripetal force being provided by the net gravitational force on any given star in the system.
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I had m*v^2/R = G*m*3M/R^2, this led me to
v=sqrt(3GM/R)
and L=sqrt(3)R, could u tell me where I went wrong?
 
i_hate_math said:
G*m*3M/R^2
That is the magnitude of the force exerted by (what exactly) in what direction?
 
haruspex said:
That is the magnitude of the force exerted by (what exactly) in what direction?
I think this is the force exerted by the three suns and that is towards the centre of the circular orbit?
 
i_hate_math said:
I think this is the force exerted by the three suns and that is towards the centre of the circular orbit?
Each sun is only pulled by two others. But anyway, it looks to me like you calculated the force exerted by a single sun towards itself (GMm/L2).
 

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