What is the Spherical Coordinate Equivalent of the Cartesian k Unit Vector?

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The discussion revolves around identifying the equivalent of the Cartesian unit k vector in spherical coordinates, exploring the relationships between Cartesian and spherical coordinate systems. Participants also touch upon the unit j vector and the necessary variables in three dimensions.

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  • One participant asks for the spherical coordinate equivalent of the unit k vector, suggesting a relationship with the z-coordinate in Cartesian coordinates.
  • Another participant questions the equivalent of the unit j vector in spherical coordinates, noting that an additional variable is needed for three-dimensional representation.
  • A third participant provides links to external resources that outline the unit vectors in spherical coordinates, indicating that these resources contain relevant equations.
  • A participant acknowledges a previous mistake regarding the unit k vector and seeks clarification on its representation in spherical coordinates.
  • One participant presents the transformation equations for Cartesian coordinates to spherical coordinates, detailing the relationships between the unit vectors and providing specific equations for the unit vectors in spherical coordinates.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the exact representation of the unit k vector in spherical coordinates, and multiple viewpoints regarding the necessary variables and transformations remain present.

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Some participants reference external resources for clarification, while others express uncertainty about the transformations and relationships between the coordinate systems. The discussion includes various interpretations of the unit vectors without resolving the complexities involved.

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What is equivalent to the unit k (vector in cartesian coords) in spherical coordinates? And why?

z=rcos(t)
 
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pivoxa15 said:
What is equivalent to the unit j (vector in cartesian coords) in spherical coordinates? And why?

z=rcos(t)
if the vector is in three dimensions, one more variable(of spherical) is required to define j.
 
I made a mistake which has been corrected, it should be the unit k vector.

In cartesian, it is (0,0,1). What is it in spherical (0,0,what)?
 
For the most common choice of spherical polar coordinates,
x=r\sin\phi\cos\theta,y=r\sin\phi\sin\thea,z=r\cos\phi,0\leq{r},0\leq\phi\leq\pi,0\leq\theta\leq{2}\pi[/itex]<br /> we have the following unit vetors relations:<br /> \vec{i}_{r}=\sin\phi(\cos\theta\vec{i}+\sin\theta\vec{j})+\cos\phi\vec{k}<br /> \vec{i}_{\phi}=\frac{\partial}{\partial\phi}\vec{i}_{r}=\cos\phi(\cos\theta\vec{i}+\sin\theta\vec{j})-\sin\phi\vec{k}<br /> \vec{i}_{\theta}=\frac{1}{\sin\phi}\frac{\partial}{\partial\theta}\vec{i}_{r}=-\sin\theta\vec{i}+\cos\theta\vec{j}<br /> Solving for the Cartesian unit vectors we gain, in particular:<br /> \vec{k}=\cos\phi\vec{i}_{r}-\sin\phi\vec{i}_{\phi}<br /> That is of course equal to the coordinate transformation:<br /> (0,0,1)\to(\cos\phi,0,\sin\phi)<br /> In order to find the correct expressions for the other two unit Cartesian vectors, utilize the intermediate result:<br /> \sin\phi\vec{i}_{r}+\cos\phi\vec{i}_{\phi}=\vec{i}_{\hat{r}}=\cos\theta\vec{i}+\sin\theta\vec{j}[/itex]&lt;br /&gt; \vec{i}_{\hat{r}},\vec{i}_{\theta} are polar coordinate vectors in the horizontal plane.
 
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